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The podcast for busy communicators and marketing pros that want to apply behavioural science. Science debunked, practical steps and takeaways to upskill and increase impact. Taking understanding your audience to a whole new level! Presented by Ruth Dale, founder of Behaviour Change Bootcamp training, award winning marketer, author, speaker with over a decade's experience delivering behaviour change marketing to improve people's lives.
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What The Bleep is Behaviour Change Anyway

Sally Garozzo and Serena Simmons

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Peppery conversations between Chartered Psychologist Serena Simmons and Clinical Hypnotherapist Sally Garozzo about what it really takes to make changes. Living optimally as a human will inevitably require some modifications to our behaviour. Maybe your doctor has told you that intermittent fasting will help your pre-diabetis? Maybe your therapist has said it will be helpful for you to turn off all screen at 10pm? Or maybe your partner has asked you to communicate with them more clearly? Tha ...
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A podcast for anyone interested in understanding the principles of behaviour therapy as a means of cultivating behaviour change. As a Board Certified Behaviour Analyst with over 10 years experience, I bring to you stories from my practice, tips and strategies on how to observe, understand and ultimately change behaviours that are no longer adaptive.Everything said is by no means prescriptive. So, please, take what resonates with you and leave what does not. With that being said, I hope you e ...
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A place to find ideas, inspiration and practical tools to help make the messy business of being human just a little bit easier. Each week, host Katie Elliott interviews a different guest and invites them to suggest a 'Little Challenge' that listeners can try for themselves.
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In this conversation, Serena and Sally discuss the role of people in behavior change. They explore the impact of supportive relationships and the importance of surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals. They also discuss the challenges of isolation and disconnection in today's society. The conversation highlights the power of modeling behavi…
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In this episode, Sally and Serena discuss blocks and barriers to change. They start by catching up and sharing their experiences with making changes, including during holidays. They explore the concept of resistance to change and the importance of understanding one's readiness for change. They also discuss the costs and benefits of making a change …
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In today's episode we are joined by Stuart King. Stuart founded BeeZee Bodies 17 years ago whilst working in public health. A hugely successful service it supports people all over England. At Public Health England he was senior scientist in the obesity and healthy weight team and he still works closely with Public Health producing and hosting The R…
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In this conversation Sally and Serena discuss beliefs and how they show up in our psyche. They explore the ideas of ‘conflicting beliefs’ and ‘bothism’ and how we’re allowed to be ‘messy humans’ but how that might sometimes stop us from getting what we want. They also discuss what influences our belief systems, how our expectations may affect the c…
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In this conversation, Sally and Serena discuss the importance of self-awareness and the power of becoming the observer of one's own life. They explore the role of silence and introspection in developing self-awareness and the impact it can have on behavior change. They also discuss the balance between self-awareness and action, and the importance o…
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In this conversation, Serena and Sally discuss the concept of habits and their impact on our lives. They share their personal habits and reflect on the importance of habits in shaping our behavior and outcomes. They explore the formation of habits and the role of stimuli and conditioning. The conversation also touches on the benefits of creating go…
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In this conversation, Serena and Sally discuss the concept of internalizing and externalizing, as well as the different perspectives on setting goals. They explore the idea that goals are dynamic and can evolve as individuals grow and change. They also discuss the fear and overwhelm that can come with goal setting and the importance of tuning into …
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Happy 2024! In today's episode we welcome Nathan Monk and Rebecca Roberts as we go deep into Behaviour Change and Further Education and Higher Education. Nathan Monk is cofounder of Smile and one of the brains behind Prospectus Plus, the innovative and personalised prospectus solution that is transforming the conversation around digitally tailoring…
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In this episode, Sally and Serena introduce themselves and discuss their backgrounds in behavior change. They talk about how they met and collaborated in the past, and how their experiences led them to create this podcast. They also share their thoughts on New Year's resolutions and the importance of holistic change. In this conversation, Sally and…
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This conversation explores the challenges and psychology of behavior change. It emphasizes the importance of understanding individual circumstances, values, and the deeper reasons for wanting to change. The role of external forces and internal drivers in facilitating change is also discussed. The conversation highlights the need to build the muscle…
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In today's episode we highlight 3 books recommended by 3 of our 2023 podcast guests and an ask for you (see below!) 1) Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me - Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions & Hurtful Acts by Carol Travis & Elliott Aronson Recommended by Samuel Salzer from E40 How to build Habits that Stick. 2) A more Beautiful Question: T…
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This episode takes a slightly different approach to our usual style. To celebrate our behind the scenes working together Rebecca & I interview each other and look back at top tips we would give ourselves and also we look forward to our future events. The title does give away the unveiling - but as they say the devil is in the detail so for more inf…
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This week we are joined by Jen Clinehens from Choice Hacking to chat all things social proof! She is an expert in applying behavioural science to marketing and you can check out Jen's work over at Choice Hacking, We chat canned laughter, the need to be part of a social group, how Apple took it a new level, why disaster preparedness never happens, T…
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This episode explores the murder mystery genre and how thinking like a detective can help you understand your audience - the first step to communicating change. The three key questions - 1. Do they have the means (to make the change)? 2. What is their motive? 3. Do they have opportunity! Anyone near Plymouth, UK on 7 November - come along to our in…
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This episode talks through what habits are and how to write a behavioural statement so you can get clarity on the challenge you are working to solve. 3 AHA moments 💡 Your audience may not be aware of their habits. They are behaviours that take place on autopilot. Habits are contextual so by focussing on the trigger and time before the behaviour tak…
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Today's episode welcomes Nedra Kline Weinreich, president and founder of Weinreich Communications. Nedra has over 25 years experience delivering social marketing to create positive change on health and social care issues. Quote from Nedra "I would say the the biggest issue that I see in campaigns that are trying to reduce stigma, whether it's aroun…
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Today's episode explains why Behaviour Change Marketing Bootcamp training is not a course! Not because we don't love training. But because the training is designed to focus on skills development and for busy pros who are short on time. It accelerates your learning through a dedicated one-day where we can kick-start your application of behavioural s…
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Episode 52 dives deep into uncertainty and how you can use it to write killer messaging - specifically key messages. We share why uncertainty is a decision killer - not great for behaviour change comms! And how you can turn that around. We talk about the Status Quo Bias and The Curse of Knowledge Bias - two cognitive biases it is worth comms leads …
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This episode is a Behind the Scenes look at the reality of using behavioural science in the workplace. Alison Trout works with Ruth the host to run behavioural insight deep dives and shares the a behind the scenes look at the framework COM_B. Quotes "you have to quite courageous to use this approach...!" Alison Trout Three aha moments Be prepared t…
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Case study - internal comms. 89% increase in actual change This episode welcomes Josephine Graham. Josephine is a communications and marketing writer and strategist with a couple of decade’s experience across the private and public sector. Josephine aims to raise the bar of how we communicate with sometimes neglected audiences, such as internally w…
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Four signs your comms won't shift behaviour There are 4 cornerstones or ‘must haves’ to using behavioural science effectively in comms & marketing. If you want to shift from raising awareness to action - to get started - you need to tick four boxes. Remember behavioural science is of great interest because it helps us understand our audiences. To f…
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Are you an idiot magnet? Todays episode is a short and sweet one following the excitement of the Unleash Your Inner Rebel conference led by Advita Patel. The day was headlined by Thomas Erickson, author & behavioural scientist and Sam McAllister, Broadcaster & soon to be Netflix star with many other incredible speakers. It was a day about leading c…
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* disclaimer* written by AI In this episode, we welcome Phil Barden author of Decoded and Owner & MD of Decode marketing consultancy. There are exciting developments happening at Decode, a consultancy focused on applying behavioral science to marketing. We talk about how Decode has incorporated AI into their work, specifically in the area of human …
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In this episode we welcome Advita Patel to the studio. Advita is the founder of Comms Rebel, a consultancy that helps organisations cultivate inclusive cultures through effective communication. She is also an experienced confidence coach and the co-founder of A Leader Like Me and Comms Edged Rebels. Vita shares her journey and discusses her book, "…
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It's one thing for you to love behavioural science. To read the books , get some training and get going - but you need to take your team and stakeholders with you. This weeks episode explains how to do that. The idea is based on a decades experience selling in to public health as the lone marketer in the team and selling in to the corporate comms t…
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This episode is an interview Nancy Harut author of Using Behavioral Science in Marketing and co-founder and chief creative officer at marketing agency HBT. Quote from Nancy “all of us really are our choice architects, when you think about it, there really is no neutral way to present information, you know, how information is presented, influences h…
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This episode explores 'Beat the Street' a behaviour change game that gets people up and moving, connecting and has a little bit of competition thrown in to help motivate people to keep playing. Katherine Knight former Head of Communications for women’s football at the FA and now Director of Intelligent Health shares how this behaviour change game i…
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Episode 2 of our series, "Working with a Client Blueprint" is finally here! It's been a busy couple of months but I have finally found my way back to podcasting. In this episode, I talk about what to focus on during the initial sessions when you start working with a client. I'll give you a hint as to what that is: building rapport! While parents, c…
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Today's episode is for busy communicators and changemakers who have very little time to scope a project and get to know their audience. You may be firefighting incoming requests, or were simply brought in too late to do the level of audience understanding you would like to. But playing this simple game can really help. The Who Am I Game Answer all …
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This episode welcomes Melina Palmer to talk about her new book "What your employees need and can't tell you". She has also published "What your customer wants and can't tell you." Melina is an applied behavioural economist with a passion for helping people use behavioural economics aka behavioural science. In the episode we explore the difference b…
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Today's episode is about our yearly survey Help I'm not a behavioural scientist get me out of here! For the third year we are asking what is working for you and what is not. We are pondering whether the term behavioural science is one of the blockers to adopting this work and proposing that maybe you do a lot of this work already but just don't kno…
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Our guest this week is Jennifer Clinehens, founder of behavioural science based customer experience consultancy Choice Hacking. Choice Hacking is a consultancy, book, podcast and TikTok sensation with millions of views. In this episode Jennifer explains how to use behavioural science to improve our customer/patient's experience. Jennifer shares how…
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This episode features an interview with Samuel Salzer about building habits. Samuel is a renowned expert on the topic, and he shares his insights on how to effectively change your habits. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to learn more about building habits and how to make lasting change Quotes from Samuel: “The whole idea here is …
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In today’s podcast we dive into our top four favourite behavioural science podcasts. The recommendations are divided into two sections: Behavioural Science and Applying Behavioural Science to Marketing. Discover how to set your content and marketing to new heights, while also learning key insights from the world's top behavioural scientists. Get re…
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In this episode we chat with the King of COM_B Professor Robert West as we discuss his popular behavioural science model --- COM_B --- As one of the original authors alongside Susan Michie and Lou Atkins we explore with Professor West how he feels about the success and popularity of the framework. We cover the basics What is COM-B and how did it co…
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Welcome to the New Year and a new series over here on the Psychminds and Behaviour Change Podcast. In this series, I will be walking you through the process of working with clients from signing on a new client to exiting them when the time is right. In this episode, I will detail all the steps involved when deciding if ABA services are right for an…
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Today’s episode (36) welcomes Dominic Ridley-Moy a consultant in behaviour change communications with extensive experience in Local Government working closely with the CAN Council, Co-Chair Local Public Services Group, Chartered Institute of Public Relation and the founder of the Behaviour Change Network. Dominic shares three predictions for behavi…
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Does your little one share things willingly? Or does sharing evoke a meltdown within minutes? Do you catch yourself saying, "Sharing is caring" on repeat to no effect? While sharing might be a sign of caring for adults, this isn't quite the case for babies and young children. From a developmental perspective, a child's Theory of Mind (ToM) has not …
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Dear Bootcamp, I have no time! I have turned into the white rabbit from Alice in Wonderland! ANON Bootcamp says….. Often the first thing we do when we have no time is drop our audience insight work. We need to understand our audience. The world is now too noisy to not lead with insight. Quote "Our messaging has got to be based on our insight & time…
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Episode 34 Dear Bootcamp, Every year we run health campaigns reminding people not to use emergency services for non-emergencies and we also frequently tell them not to miss their appointments as it costs loads of money and appointments are hard to come by. So if they cancel someone else use that appointment. We are still tackling the same issues a …
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Teaching individuals to tolerate denied access to items, activities, places or people is an essential skill. It helps the individual learn and implement coping strategies, appropriately select available alternatives and communicate their emotions. Not only does teaching them this skill build up toleration to denied access but it also helps them cop…
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Episode 33 kickstarts our 3rd series The Problem Page. Q. What is the biggest mistake when planning behaviour change marketing? A. No behaviour change goal. This episode explores the reasons why we may not start with behaviour change goal and the confusion between a policy goal and a behaviour change goal. Ruth shares two case studies and how the f…
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#commshero 2022 19-23 September This episode offers you practical tips on community building by expert guest and #commshero community builder Asif Choudry. Asif is marketing and sales director at We Are Resource and has built a global communications network called #commshero. What started as an online communications conference 8 years ago is now a …
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Have you ever wondered how certain people are able to fit more and more tasks, activities, to-do items into an already jam-packed schedule? Do you think they are just some kind of productivity genius or secretly have superhuman powers? In this episode, we talk all about how to create a habit that you are able to stick with. We all have hobbies, som…
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This episode welcomes the 👑 queens of communication Leanne Hughes & Rebecca Roberts to chat about meaningful engagement with young people looks like and how to do it. We focus on the fabulous Awkward Moments sexual consent campaign in Scotland. This campaign took a behaviour change approach and adopted COM_B to understand what young people needed t…
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"here's my hook - now what is their potential question - next answer that question" Today’s episode welcomes Jeremy Moser, an incredible content marketer. He is co-founder & CEO at uSERP, a performance SEO & Digital PR agency. Founded in 2019, Jeremy’s uSERP helps SaaS brands like monday.com, ActiveCampaign, Freshworks, Hotjar, and hundreds more, g…
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This episode is a wrap up of the Challenging Behaviour series over here on Psychminds Podcast. We discuss tangible maintained behaviour which is challenging behaviour maintained by access to tangible items such as toys, food items, places etc. We also talk about a less discussed function which I believe is worth noting. Give the episode a listen to…
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