The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode of the podcast, John Papola has a conversation with his friend Congressman Justin Amash. Justin is a lawyer and politician who has served as a U.S. Representative of Michigan. Papola and Amash dive into the inner workings of Congress, through the lens of Amash’s experience from the inside. They talk about …

On this episode of The Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola has a conversation with Dr. David Thomas. David is an economist and professor with the research area of public health economics and business cycles. He is also a serial entrepreneur. John and David talk about a wide variety of topics as they dive into Thomas’ long and winding career through…

The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode of The Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola chats with Johan Norberg. Johan is an author and lecturer with expertise in entrepreneurship, global trends, and globalization around the world. Papola and Norberg examine a common question asked in America: Should the United States be more like Sweden? They also …

The Emergent Order Podcast Macroeconomics Roundtable, with George Selgin, James McClure, Steve Horwitz, Lars Christensen, and Scott Sumner On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola welcomes George Selgin, James McClure, Steve Horwitz, Lars Christensen, and Scott Sumner for a long and winding macroeconomics roundtable discussion. More from our …

On today’s episode of the Emergent Order Podcast, John Papola has a conversation with Lou Perez. Lou is the hilarious Head Writer and Producer of We The Internet TV, a stand up comedian, and part of the comedy duo Greg and Lou. Papola and Perez talk about the craft of being funny, with a particular focus on dealing with controversial ideas and pola…

On this episode of the podcast John Papola speaks with the Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Good Food Institute, Bruce Friedrich. Bruce is also a TED Fellow whose TED 2019 Talk has been viewed millions of times. The two discuss Friedrich’s journey to founding the Good Food Institute, and how he uses innovation and market forces to make food…

The Emergent Order Podcast Communicating Big Ideas Through Comedy with Andrew Heaton On this episode of the podcast, Papola has a conversation with Andrew Heaton. Andrew is a comedian, author, and political satirist. He hosts his own podcast called The Political Orphanage which is about comedy and news, as well as a science fiction podcast titled A…

The Emergent Order Podcast Inside The Utopia Experiment With Dylan Evans On today’s episode of the podcast, John has a conversation with Dylan Evans. Dylan is a technologist, futurist, AI expert, and the author of The Utopia Experiment. His book chronicles the true story of Dylan conducting an experiment of the same name in an attempt to simulate a…

The Emergent Order Podcast On this episode host John Papola has a long and winding conversation with Steven Horwitz. Steven is an author and economics professor at Ball State University. He has written extensively on Hayek and Austrian economics, monetary theory and history, and American economic history. The two discuss Steve’s career, including h…

On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola interviews Professor of Economics at George Mason University and New York Times Bestselling author, Bryan Caplan. Caplan’s bestseller is a graphic novel called Open Borders, which Papola is currently in the process of adapting into a film. The two discuss the creation of Open Borders as well as go over…

On this episode of the podcast, host John Papola goes solo for his first ever YouTube livestream to have a conversation with his viewers. He spans many topics including the origins of Emergent Order, his time at Spike TV, storytelling, and why he’s obsessed with all things Apple. https://youtu.be/IZ53ayJxWgw…

On this episode of the podcast John Papola speaks with Greg Lukianoff. Greg is the President and CEO of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or FIRE. He is also an author, and co-authored the book The Coddling of the American Mind (based on the article of the same name). Papola and Lukianoff discuss the free speech crisis on college c…

On this episode of the podcast John Papola has a conversation with Lord Matt Ridley. Matt is an author of books, columns, reviews, articles, and blogs. His book The Rational Optimist was particularly influential on Papola’s worldview. The two talk about the perspective of the rational optimist through the lens of today’s pandemic-stricken world. Ma…

This podcast episode features a long and winding conversation between John Papola and Scott Sumner. Scott is an economist, the Director of the Program on Monetary Policy at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and the author of popular economics blog The Money Illusion. The two take a deep dive into monetary policy and macroeconomics, fr…

Today’s episode of the podcast features a conversation between John Papola and his good friend Arthur Brooks. Arthur, an author and social scientist, was formerly the president of the American Enterprise Institute. He is now a professor at Harvard. Arthur Brooks was also the subject and star of Papola’s feature documentary, The Pursuit. John and Ar…

On today’s episode of the podcast, John has a conversation with a serial entrepreneur VC named Sean Sheppard, who is currently the Co-founder of GrowthX and GrowthX Academy. He is also the lead instructor at the latter. Sean’s storied career in tech makes for an insightful conversation with Papola, in which they discuss everything from Sean’s time …

This episode features a conversation between John Papola and Peter Gray, who is an evolutionary psychologist and research professor of psychology at Boston College. Gray is well-known for his book Free to Learn in which he argues that we must trust children to guide their own learning and development in order for them to thrive. Peter and John disc…

On today’s episode John Papola has a long, philosophical conversation with Tara Smith, PhD. Professor Smith is a moral philosopher and philosophy professor at the University of Texas. She also holds the BB&T Chair for the Study of Objectivism. John and Tara dig into Objectivist philosophy, the belief system created by author and philosopher Ayn Ran…

This episode features a conversation between John Papola and Michael Kollo. Michael is a thinker, writer, and podcaster in the Artificial Intelligence space, hosting a show called “The Curious Quant”. The two discuss everything from economics to the morality of artificial intelligence. Kollo’s thoughts on the topics are colored not only by his podc…

On this episode John Papola has a conversation with former President and CEO of both BB&T and the CATO institute, John Allison. Allison’s time at the helm of BB&T included the 2008 financial crisis, in which the bank never saw a quarterly loss. The two discuss John Allison’s career in banking, and his experiences in growing BB&T from a small region…

This episode is a conversation between John Papola and John Kiehl. Kiehl is a musician, arranger, and the co-founder of Soundtrack New York. Soundtrack is a legendary recording studio that has worked with esteemed directors such as Ron Howard and Martin Scorcece. The two discuss John Kiehl’s long career in the music industry and the lessons that he…

On today’s episode John Papola talks to author, economist, and New School professor Anwar Shaikh. Anwar is a political economist whose work offers a synthesis of the economic analysis in Smith, Ricardo, Marx, and Keynes. He is also a well-known critic of neoclassical economics, particularly of the Theory of Perfect Competition. John and Anwar delve…

On this episode, John Papola chats with Founder/President/CEO of the Independent Institute, David Theroux. David also founded the C.S. Lewis Society of California. The two collaborated on both seasons one and two of the web series “Love Gov”. John and David take a deep dive into the history and ideas of natural law, the pre-modern/postmodern debate…

Today’s episode is a conversation between John Papola and Lynn Harsh, the Vice President of Strategy at the State Policy Network. Lynn is also a member of SPN’s Leadership and Development Initiative Team as well as the Creative and Strategic lead for the SPN Annual Meeting. She co-founded and was previously CEO of Washington State’s Freedom Foundat…

On today’s show John has a conversation with George Mason University Professor of Economics and Philosophy Peter J. Boettke. In George Mason’s Mercatus Center, Boettke holds the positions of Vice President of Advanced Study and Director of the F.A. Hayek Program for Advanced Study in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics. The conversation tracks Pete…

On this episode Papola interviews his good friend William Hurley, or “Whurley” as he’s more commonly known. Whurley is a serial entrepreneur and multi-patent holding innovator who’s most recent work is Strangeworks a quantum computing company. Whurley and John talk through the many businesses Whurley has started in his storied career including Chao…

On today’s episode of the podcast, John Papola talks to serial entrepreneur and founder of Vital Farms, Matt O’Hayer. Matt has started numerous businesses and today shares his entrepreneurial stories with John. The two also discuss conscious capitalism, responsible chicken farming, and universal basic income. More from our guest: Vital Farms Bio Bl…

On today’s podcast episode John Papola converses with journalist and founder of the Free Range Kids Movement, Lenore Skenazy. You might know better as “The World’s Worst Mom.” The two discuss The Free Range Kids Movement which Lenore started shortly after her breakout column “Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride the Subway Alone” went viral. Lenore shares …

On today’s episode of the podcast John Papola has a conversation with UT professor of innovation, 3Com founder, co-inventor of ethernet, and the namesake of Metcalfe’s Law: Bob Metcalfe. The two dive into Metcalfe’s current career at the University of Texas as well as discuss his past experiences witnessing the earlier days of Silicon Valley. Bob’s…

In this episode of the podcast, John Papola and Jon Taplin discuss philosophy, literature, and life lessons learned throughout Taplin’s extensive and varied career. Taplin has done everything from going on the road as a tour manager with Bob Dylan, to producing movies (including once being a key part of a massive Disney deal), to being one of the e…

On episode four our host, John Papola, speaks with author, academic, and historian Deirdre McCloskey. McCloskey describes herself as “a literary, quantitative, postmodern, free-market, progressive-Episcopalian, Midwestern woman from Boston who was once a man.” Needless to say, this is a very interesting and wide-ranging conversation! Papola and McC…

On episode three of the Emergent Order podcast, John interviews Jeff Sandefer, an oil industry veteran, entrepreneur and educator. Sandefer describes the personal and professional journey that led him to establish the nonprofit Acton Academy school network. In this episode we will also unpack Sandefer’s views on the education system as a whole and …

On the second episode of the Emergent Order podcast, John Papola interviews entrepreneur, author, and Whole Foods CEO, John Mackey. Papola and Mackey discuss the evolution of Whole Foods Market, from its humble beginnings in Austin, TX to its current role in the Amazon corporate ecosystem. This episode also includes an in-depth discussion of Mackey…

On the first episode of the Emergent Order podcast, John Papola interviews economist, author, and host of the EconTalk Podcast, Russ Roberts. John and Russ explore the story behind their first creative collaboration: Fear the Boom and Bust. This episode also includes an explanation of how the phenomenon known as “emergence” affects our everyday liv…

Will the future be planned by experts, or will it emerge spontaneously from the bottom up? On the Emergent Order Podcast, filmmaker and entrepreneur John Papola explores the hidden complexity behind emerging trends in business, culture, and technology.