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Ever wanted to read Dante's Divine Comedy? Come along with us! We're not lost in the scholarly weeds. (Mostly.) We're strolling through the greatest work (to date) of Western literature. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as I take on this masterpiece passage by passage. I'll give you my rough English translation, show you some of the interpretive knots in the lines, let you in on the 700 years of commentary, and connect Dante's work to our modern world. The pilgrim comes awake in a dark wood, then walks across the known universe. New episodes every Sunday and Wednesday.

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When The French Monarchy Makes Even The Papacy Look Good: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 82 - 96 27:09

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As Hugh Capet winds up to the heights of his monologue, he comes to a most shocking climax: that moment when the French monarchy is so bad that it makes even the corrupt papacy look good. We've come to the very center of Dante's beef with the French crown, voiced by this legendary monarch about his own descendants, particularly Philip IV (or Philip the Fair). It's a tale so dire that even papal corruption is forgotten! Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore the narrative climax of Hugh Capet's monologue on the fifth terrace of avarice in PURGATORIO. If you'd like to help underwrite the fees of this podcast, whether with a one-time donation or a very small monthly stipend, please consider doing so with this PayPal link right here . Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:14] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 82 - 96. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me about this episode, please find its slot on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:06] Identifying the players in the passage: Philip IV (or the Fair) of France and Pope Boniface VIII. [07:48] Tracing the political history behind this passage. [15:41] Admitting the shock of Dante's defending Pope Boniface VIII. [18:42] Talking in code as a survival strategy. [22:54] Querying whether evil actions can be inherited (since virtuous ones can't be). [25:11] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 82 - 96.…

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The Madness Of Hugh Capet's Descendants: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 61 - 81 35:55

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Hugh Capet continues the story of his family, bringing the saga of the French (or Frankish) crown into Dante's day with three of Hugh's most infamous descendants . . . at least as far as the poet is concerned. Our pilgrim gets treated to a grim recital of French misdeeds. And we catch our first whiff of antisemitism in COMEDY, just at the moment the actual French monarchy is expelling the Jews from French territory. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore this tough middle passage in Hugh Capet's rendition of the avaricious wrongs of the Frankish kingdom. If you'd like to help underwrite the many fees associated with this otherwise unsupported podcast, you can make a one-time donation or a small on-going contribution by using this PayPal link right here . Here are the segments for this episode of the podcast WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:43] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 61 - 81. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation about this difficult passage with me and others, find the entry for this podcast episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [04:07] The poetics in the passage: structure and rhyme. [07:51] The troubled disconnection and reconnection of Provence and France. [12:48] Hugh Capet's first malicious descendant: Charles I of Anjou (1226 - 1281). [19:10] The second miscreant among his issue: Charles of Valois (1270 - 1325). [22:56] The first instance of antisemitism in COMEDY. [29:37] Hugh Capet's third bad seed: Charles II of Anjou (1254 - 1309). [32:50] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 61 - 81.…

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Hugh Capet In Purgatory . . . Or Maybe Not: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 40 - 60 34:44

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The pilgrim has been attracted by one soul, calling out his examples of Mary, Fabricius, and Nicholas to counter his own sins of avarice. Dante steps closer and inquires who this soul is. He finds himself in front of Hugh Capet, the legendary (and historical) founder of the Capetian dynasty of French kings. Or at least a version of said Hugh Capet, since Dante the poet flubs the historicity of his penitent. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore this fascinating look at the second major figure on the fifth terrace of Mount Purgatory. If you'd like to help underwrite the fees associated with this unsupported podcast, whether with a one-time donation or a small on-going contribution, please visit this link at Paypal . Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:50] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 40 - 60. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please find the comment section for this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com. [04:38] Hugh Capet in history. [10:46] Hugh Capet out of history and into COMEDY. [14:19] The highlights in the passage, plus a note about Hugh's prophetic voice. [25:04] The passage without its historical apparatus. [28:49] Dante's anti-French propaganda and his misunderstanding of power as a human motivation. [32:16] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 40 - 60.…

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Poverty As Reward And Compensation: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 16 - 39 24:21

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Dante has gone beyond Pope Adrian V but hasn't left the fifth terrace of Purgatory. He and Virgil pick their way among the many shades until the pilgrim hears one shade call out three examples that entice the pilgrim to find this penitent. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we work through this passage on the terrace of the avaricious that will eventually lead us to our surprising second greedy soul ahead. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:15] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 16 - 39. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me about this passage, please find the entry for this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:15] Dante, the poor homeless man, stares at the greedy. [05:25] The exemplars for the avaricious are told in very few words. [07:04] The first exemplar for the avaricious: Mary and her poverty. [10:03] The second exemplar for the avaricious: Fabricius and his poverty. [12:26] The third exemplar for the avaricious: Saint Nicholas and his generosity. [16:18] Does Dante have a death wish? [22:10] Rereading the passge: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 16 - 39.…

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What The Pilgrim Can Do And What A Redeemer Must Do: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 1 - 15 24:06

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Pope Adrian V has pushed the pilgrim Dante to move on . . . even though the pilgrim doesn't want to. He and Virgil pick their way through the crowded fifth terrace of Purgatory. The avaricious are so many that the poet has to step out and offer a prophetic denunciation among the wreckage. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we edge our way toward the second penitent on this crowded terrace of PURGATORIO. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:32] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, Lines 1 - 15. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me in the comments to this episode, please find it on my website, markscarbrough.com. [03:16] The advantange or problem with structure in PURGATORIO, Canto XX. [07:30] The pilgrim's weak will redirected. [09:57] The pilgrim's and Virgil's movement v. the immobile smelting of the penitents. [13:17] The poet-prophet's curse. [16:32] The poet-prophet's hope. [22:14] Rereading this passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XX, lines 1 - 15.…

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The Loneliness Of Pope Adrian V: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 127 - 145 23:43

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Pope Adrian V concludes his discourse on the fifth terrace of Mount Purgatory on a strangely lonely, alienated note. Perhaps this is what avarice does to a person. Or perhaps this is what exile has done to Dante. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we work through the end of PURGATORIO XIX and Pope Adrian's speech on the terrace of the avaricious. We end at a melacholy spot for one of the redeemed. Here are the segments of this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:39] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 127 - 145. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, see the entry for this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:32] Informal "you" v. formal "you." [06:22] Two New Testament references: Apocalypse 19:9 - 10 and the Gospel of Matthew 22:23 - 30. [10:53] The mystery of what is purified as a new plotting strategy in COMEDY. [13:14] The sad loneliness at the end of Canto XIX. [15:31] INFERNO XIX v. PURGATORIO XIX. [18:09] Misreading PURGATORIO XIX as a plea for democracy. [19:29] Reading all of Pope Adrian V's discourse: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 91 - 145.…

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The Most Bitter Pain Of Purgatory: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 115 - 124 18:23

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Pope Adrian V, bound hands and feet to the ground, sets out to answer the pilgrim Dante's second question: What's going on here? In doing so, the pope unwittingly gives one of the most misunderstood lines in PURGATORIO. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore more of this conversation with the first (and only) pope we meet on Mount Purgatory. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:52] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 115 - 124. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please find this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com. [03:43] Punishment v. purification . . . and their contrapasso. [06:33] The bitterness of the pain. [09:42] Bitterness and falconry. [12:53] The transformation of the soul . . . momentarily stopped. [14:06] The avaricious v. the envious. [16:17] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 115 - 126.…

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A Pope In Purgatory For (Surprise!) Avarice: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 91 - 114 29:30

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Dante the pilgrim has asked Virgil--at least with a look in the eyes--if he could speak to one of the avaricious penitents, lying face down on the ground. On Virgil's okay, the pilgrim walks up to Pope Adrian IV . . . or at least so Dante the poet thinks. Sources vary. And interpretations, too. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we work through the interpretive and historical knots we face on meeting our first pope since INFERNO. If you'd like to help cover the costs of this podcast, consider donating a lump sum or even a little bit each month using this PayPal link right here . Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:19] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 91 - 114. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me in the comments to this episode, please find it on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:47] Two interpretive knots: what exactly you must ripen to return to God and why anyone would want to stop that ripening process. [08:13] Dante, an architectural poet, who gives his reader three structuring questions for this conversation. [09:31] Four possible interpretive answers to the line of Latin from the penitent. [14:28] The identity of the speaker's family: the Fieschi from east of Genoa. [17:00] The identity of the speaker himself: Ottobono de' Fieschi, aka Pope Adrian V (c.1215 - 1276 CE). [20:12] Dante's possible historical mistake: Pope Adrian IV or Pope Adrian V? [23:00] Punishment v. purification: a difficult balance in PURGATORIO. [26:43] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 91 - 114.…

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Stuck To The Ground (Sometimes): PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 70 - 90 24:41

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Dante and Virgil now walk along the fifth terrace of Purgatory, looking at the souls who are face down, stuck to the ground, unable to move or turn over. One of them answers Virgil about the way up . . . and the pilgrim Dante wants to stop for a conversation. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, for a look at this transitional passage in PURGATORIO as we step up to meet the first of three souls on the fifth terrace of Mount Purgatory. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:31] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 70 - 90. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please find the entry for this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:30] Falconry as a "transmutative art"--and the possible transmutations from classical poetry. [09:24] The problem of being stuck to the ground. [12:18] Our disorientation among the speakers' words. [14:37] Virgil's (new?) concepts of justice and hope. [17:18] A new understanding of how Purgatory works. [19:00] PURGATORIO XIX v. INFERNO XIX. [22:27] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 70 - 90.…

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Look To The Heavens: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 52 - 69 27:21

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Dante the pilgrim has had a "P" wiped off his forehead by the angel at the stairs. He's started his climb to the next terrace. All seems well, but he's still sad, bent over with worry, troubled about his dream. Virgil again comes to the rescue. He reinterprets the dream for the pilgrim (leaving us with quite a few questions!) and commands the pilgrim to direct his eyes up to the heavens, the ultimate lure to God. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we look at this passage that brings us to the cusp of the fifth circle of Mount Purgatory. If you'd like to consider making a contribution to keep this podcast afloat, even a small monthly donation, please visit this PayPal link right here . Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:35] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 52 - 69. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation, please find this episode's listing on my website, markscarbrough.com . [03:23] Possible structural changes in the canto breaks in PURGATORIO. [05:51] Dante the pilgrim as the mourner. [07:02] The dream as a "new vision." [09:39] The question of what exactly is "above us." [12:22] The open interpretative space in Virgil's interpretation of Dante's dream. [17:00] Virgil's impatience, the workings of desire, and the rocky landscape of Purgatory. [20:02] The second major instance of falconry imagery in COMEDY. [22:31] The heavens as the ultimate lure. [25:10] Rereading this passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 52 - 69.…

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Expecting Those Ladies Of Consolation: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 34 - 51 28:36

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Awakened from his dream by a foul odor, Dante the pilgrim finds himself fully out of tune with his surroundings: a bright new day on the mountain of Purgatory, beautiful sunshine at his back, and an angel whose feathers fan him on to the next terrace. He's even promised the curious "ladies of consolation" as a salve for his mourning. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we look at a difficult passage in PURGATORIO, the journey from the fourth terrace of sloth to the fifth terrace up the mountain ahead of us. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:45] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 34 - 51. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation, please find this particular episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [02:59] The Bodleian manuscript's illustration of Dante's second dream in PURGATORIO. [04:23] Dante's disorientation and his possible guilt. [07:14] Virgil and Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. [09:29] Disorientation in the passage: hope and despair. [11:28] More disorientation: an angel and the poet Dante in the tercet. [13:06] A return to the familiarity of the plot. [14:14] Four answers to the question of "who mourns?" [21:42] Those curious ladies of consolation. [26:12] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 34 - 51.…

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Let's Compare The First Two Dreams In PURGATORIO 20:55

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We've had two dreams in PURGATORIO, one at Canto IX and one at Canto XIX (although it actually started in the last line of Canto XVIII). Let's take a moment to compare and contrast these two dreams. What can they tell us about the changing nature of PURGATORIO, especially given my thesis that this is a poem in process, one in which the poet is learning how to write the poem as he moves forward? Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:21] A reading of the first two dreams in PURGATORIO: Canto IX, lines 13 - 42; and Canto XIX, lines 1 - 13. [05:11] Both dreams occur near dawn, startle the pilgrim awake, and rob the pilgrim of his free will. [08:40] Both dreams are about (different versions) of the future. [12:14] Both dreams have problems about who saves the pilgrim: the terrifying eagle or Virgil? [14:20] Both dreams are full of classical imagery (with important differences in the placement of that imagery). [16:15] Both dreams have songs: the first, outside the dream; the second, inside it. [17:35] There are two characters in the first dream, four character in the second--allowing for a larger interpretive space in the second dream.…

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The Siren, The Lady, And Virgil: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 16 - 33 30:37

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Here's the second episode on the pilgrim's second dream in PURGATORIO. Things get wilder after the ugly lady becomes beautiful under the pilgrim Dante's gaze. She begins to sing. She identifies herself as a siren. She mentions Ulysses (incorrectly?). Another lady appears and begs Virgil for help. And Virgil saves Dante (yet again). Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we parse this passage about the workings of poetry and perhaps COMEDY as a whole. Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:23] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 16 - 33. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation, please find the entry for this episode on my website: markscarbrough.com . [03:18] Questions about free will in the dream state. [05:27] Questions about singing (and therefore, about poetry). [07:03] Ulysses back in Purgatorio again! [10:30] The siren's song and possible identification. [14:05] The holy, speedy lady. [15:15] Her possible identifications: Beatrice, Saint Lucy, the second lady in Dante's VITA NUOVA, a whore/virgin cliché, or the holy lady of Philosophy from Boethius's CONSOLATION OF PHILOSOPHY. [22:37] Virgil in and out of Dante's dream. [23:51] Medieval medical remedies for lust. [25:10] A grammatical problem in the passage. [28:39] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 16 - 33.…

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Chilly Dreams Before The Fifth Terrace Of Purgatory: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 1- 15 27:07

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Our pilgrim has fallen asleep on the edge of the fourth terrace of Mount Purgatory. He's seen the racing slothful but night has gotten the better of him . . . so he begins to dream. That dream is all about desire and the male gaze. It's also about poetic space and dream space . . . and the porous nature between the two. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we start the first of two episodes on the second dream of PURGATORIO. Here are the segments for this episode of the podcast WALKING WITH DANTE: [01:54] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, Lines 1 - 15. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation, please find this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com . [04:21] Cooling planets, fortune tellers, and the liminal space before dawn. [06:51] References to INFERNO XX and VII in this passage. [10:20] Canto XIX and the psalms of ascent. [12:46] Delaying tactics at the opening of Canto XIX. [15:07] Disgust and the "redemption" of gaze. [18:29] Disturbing gender politics. [19:50] Who gets to observe vs. who (or what) is observed. [21:59] The poetic space vs. the dream space (which are not really separate) [25:17] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 1 - 15.…

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Greedy Beasts That Refuse The Lure: A Read-Through Of The Fifth Terrace Of PURGATORIO, Cantos XIX - XXI 27:33

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We've climbed up to the fifth terrace of Purgatory proper and come among the avaricious. These three cantos become increasingly complex and daring: in their theology, in their poetics, and in their myth-making. They're extraordinarily rich. Gilded, even. Which somehow fits, since these are the cantos in which the greedy purge their sin. And we've got three incredible monologues: from a late-to-repent pope, one of the founders of the French monarchy, and Statius, the great Roman poet whose THEBIAD has been with us all along in COMEDY. Join me, Mark Scarbrough, for a read-through of Cantos XIX, XX, and XXI of PURGATORIO before we begin our slow walk along this most dangerous terrace.…

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