Episode 4: Thucydides, Pericles' Funeral Oration: The Greatest Speech to Read

Hot Takes on the Classics

Description

In this episode of Hot Takes on the Classics, Tim McIntosh and Emily Maeda dive into Pericles’ Funeral Oration as recorded by Thucydides in The Peloponnesian War. They discuss the speech's celebration of Athenian democracy, its striking contrast to Spartan culture, and its lessons on leadership and sacrifice. Tim delivers his hot take, claiming that Pericles' Funeral Oration is better read than heard, drawing from his extensive experience as a speechwriter. The episode also explores Athenian values and reflects on the legacy of play as a distinctive Greek contribution.

Show Guide

00:00 Introduction and Opening Quote

01:53 Background on Pericles and the Peloponnesian War

03:42 The Magnificence of Athens and Pericles' Legacy

09:16 The Spartan Ideal: Life and Values

16:55 Comparing Athenian and Spartan Lifestyles

17:48 What Makes an Ideal Warrior

18:12 Pericles’ Funeral Oration: Athenian vs. Spartan Perspectives

19:02 Democracy and the Role of Individual Responsibility in Athens

21:34 The Athenian Admiration for Heroes and Great Leaders

22:30 The Story of Greek Mercenaries and Their Leadership Model

26:57 Greece's Legacy of Play and Its Cultural Significance

30:39 Tim's Hot Take: The Funeral Oration Is Best Read

34:15 Conclusion and Farewell

Key Topics & Takeaways

• Pericles’ Vision of Athens: A focus on Athenian democracy, civic duty, and the harmonious blend of personal freedom with responsibility to the state.
• Athens vs. Sparta: Highlighting the stark differences between Athens' cultural achievements and Sparta's austere way of life, with Pericles making a compelling case for Athenian superiority.
• Leadership and Vision: Pericles presents Athens as a beacon of greatness, encouraging Athenians to aspire to heroic deeds for the good of the city-state.
• The Power of Written Speeches: Tim argues that the depth and philosophical insights of Pericles’ oration are more impactful when read, as the speech prioritizes vision and principle over rhetorical flourish.
• Greek Contribution to Play: The Greeks’ invention of play reflects a unique aspect of their worldview, setting them apart from other ancient cultures.

Questions & Discussion

• What makes Pericles’ Funeral Oration a timeless reflection on democracy and sacrifice?
  Reflect on how Pericles’ speech captures enduring themes of democratic values and the noble sacrifice made by citizens for the greater good.
• How does Pericles inspire Athenians by connecting individual action to the city's greater good?
  Discuss how Pericles links personal contributions to the overarching success and vision of Athens, motivating citizens to aspire to greatness.
• What are the philosophical contrasts between Athenian democracy and Spartan oligarchy?
  Explore the differences in governance, cultural values, and societal structures between Athens and Sparta as articulated by Pericles.
• Why does Tim claim that the oration is more powerful as written text than as spoken rhetoric?
  Analyze Tim’s perspective on the unique impact of reading Pericles' speech, emphasizing the philosophical and reflective nature of the text.
• How does the concept of play underscore the Greek view of life and human potential?
  Examine the cultural importance of play in Greek society and how it reflects their ideals of human flourishing and creativity.

Suggested Reading

• The Peloponnesian War by Thucydides
• The Greek Way by Edith Hamilton
• The Story of the World by Susan Wise Bauer