Shawn Smith on Signing to Roc Nation, Rapping at the BET Cypher & More

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Shawn Smith talks about growing up in Philly, signing with Roc Nation, going to the Brunch, making Flakko jealous, and more!

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00:00 Intro

0:49 Shawn's school was wild, Flakko says he was never a fighter: "I've been p***y my whole life"

2:54 The new Philly sound, copying everybody else?

5:17 Shawn says the new Philly sound is cool even if it's for younger kids

6:41 Shawn was an artsy kid and super smart in high school, was on the paper for his prowess

7:53 Flakko says Leaf Ward never showed up for his interview and hasn't heard from him since

8:33 From Philly to signing with Roc Nation

9:58 Joe Budden podcast played his music which definitely boosted his visibility

11:38 Meek been showing love to Shawn for years, brought him to the studio, gave him a verse!!!

13:23 Shawn says Black Thought is his mentor

15:10 Shawn says he's a good drawing artist and almost became a cartoonist

15:45 Flakko says he hates talented dudes because he only gossips for a living

16:26 Shawn on the BET cypher, Flakko asks about the other lyricists Roc Nation signed 17:54 Flakko says by signing lyricists Roc Nation looking for his next J Cole

19:15 Shawn says he's the best regardless of how a rapper should feel

19:40 Shawn has some things in the works with Reuben Vincent

22:12 Shawn has been to the Roc Nation brunch like 3 times already!! Flakko is jealous says he's a natural groupie and would lose his mind being there

23:47 Flakko says if he would meet Drake at the brunch, he would bend knees and ask for a verse if he was Shawn

24:20 Being inspired by Jean Michel Basquiat

25:34 Shawn on working with Don Cannon

28:23 Shawn says Uzi was always fire and knew he would be a huge artist

29:40 Flakko has an issue with rappers calling themselves "rock stars"

32:01 Flakko asks why 'God Dad' is such a short song, says the future of music is a min song or even loops

36:00 Shawn also says hip hop shouldn't cater to Tiktok

37:49 Flakko asks Shawn his Philly goats

39:59 Flakko says Quilly Millz aint hot anymore

42:39 Is Cassidy the greatest battle rapper from Philly? Shawn says he could battle Arsenal for 500K

47:31 "Kurr made me wish I had sh** stain draws" - Flakko

49:25 Flakko tells Shawn to stay away from Philly Scoop Hall

50:05 How Flakko sees Shawn's career and says he'd rather see him as a Tech N9ne than a Trinidad James

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