Episode 65 - Jamie and Dan talk about the Stephen-Elliott/Shitty-Men Lawsuit


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Daniel Oppenheimer and I talked about Stephen Elliott’s essay and lawsuit (filed last week) against Moira Donegan and the “Shitty Men in Media” list that Elliott was named in a year ago this week.

This one was put together on short notice, and made in part because I couldn’t find written words to express my thoughts on this and it was making me crazy.

Here are some stories mentioned in the episode:

Elliott’s “How An Anonymous Accusation Derailed My Life”: https://quillette.com/2018/09/25/how-an-anonymous-accusation-derailed-my-life/

The news story about the lawsuit: https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/stephen-elliott-sues-moira-donegan.html

Other “shitty men” respond to the lawsuit: https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/stephen-elliott-moira-donegan-men-respond.html

Writers respond to the lawsuit: https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/books/writers-condemn-author-stephen-elliott-after-he-sues-creator-of-s-ty-media-men-list

On the possible effects of the suit:


The Honest Couretesan’s Maggie McNeill’s “Topping from the Bottom” mentioned & quoted in intro:


Moira Donegan’s legal defense fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/hz8sxq

My “A noisy man on the silence of men” rant:


If you want to read Bari Weiss’s Times Opinion Piece, you’ll have to look it up yourself.

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