How to replace yourself in your agency

Small Efforts - with Sean Sun and Andrew Askins

In this episode, Sean talks about getting himself out of day-to-day client work at Miscreants, and Andrew provides an update on his slow progress with customer acquisition for MetaMonster. Andrew shares an idea for a side project and they talk about Dharmesh buying the chat.com domain and "flipping" it to OpenAI.

Links:

• Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins
• Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/
• MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/
• ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/
• Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun
• Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/
• CopyWork: https://copy.work/
• Wordpress to Webflow-ready CSV: https://contentgobl.in/

For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.

Transcript:
00:00.98

Sean

All right, what is this thing, Andrew? What are you gonna tell me? even It's been 30 minutes since you told me we we're changing what we're talking about today. Now you've been, okay, go.

00:12.23

Andrew

let me Let me just play this for you and I think it'll all make sense.

00:15.25

Sean

Okay.

00:21.25

Andrew

and

00:24.28

Andrew

hoping you can so into me baby

00:28.45

Andrew

Do you know what this is yet?

00:33.18

Sean

Yes. I know what this is. I know what this is. This is the... I feel bad for all Asian guys in SF. I'll never outdo you, you tech bros. It's fucking over.

00:51.69

Andrew

Wait, wait! graves keepki godam oh

01:02.88

Andrew

I never thought I would hear Mark Zuckerberg with T paid singing sweat, drip down my balls.

01:04.84

Sean

z pain that's what what what do you want to do you want to dissect the lyrics you want to

01:11.18

Andrew

Oh, ski, ski motherfucker. Oh, ski, ski. God damn.

01:17.79

Andrew

Oh my God. I found this and I was like, holy shit. Clear everything. This is all I want to talk about.

01:32.86

Sean

honey

01:32.98

Andrew

I think it's just fucking hilarious. And like, I can't decide if I like love it or hate it. Like I can't decide if it's the best thing ever or the most cringe thing ever. And I think I love it. And I think I love it in part because it is kind of cringe and he just doesn't give a fuck.

01:52.89

Sean

for what it's worth though maybe this was the light at the this was the this was the one piece of uplifting news in recent times my executor the one who keeps us going

02:01.14

Andrew

Right. Oh my God.

02:08.17

Andrew

Yeah. So that, that is the, uh, Mark Zuckerberg collaboration with T-Pain. Uh, their group is unofficially or officially, I guess, Z-Pain. Um, they have one single, which is an acoustic version of Gitlo, which Mark recorded for his wife Priscilla because apparently it's the song they listened to every anniversary.

02:28.74

Sean

Yep, and then you played it for her, and...

02:32.21

Andrew

Is there a video of him playing it for her?

02:33.61

Sean

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:34.49

Andrew

Oh my God, I gotta go watch that. i I mean, he's found something that works. Being a wife guy is working for his brand right now and he is leaning all all the way in.

02:47.07

Andrew

and

02:47.21

Sean

Hey, you know what they say about wife guys, though?

02:50.47

Andrew

Yeah.

02:50.85

Sean

on the internet. okay I just hope he doesn't.

02:53.35

Andrew

Yep, it's gonna blow up at some point.

02:57.23

Sean

I don't think he was on the ditty list, so we'll be okay.

02:57.61

Andrew

But...

03:00.01

Sean

we might or Or the FC list, so we might be okay.

03:04.72

Andrew

For what it's worth, I love T-Pain so much.

03:08.46

Sean

Yeah, he's great. He's great.

03:09.83

Andrew

T-Pain's Tiny Desk Concert is one of my all-time favorites. It's so good.

03:13.97

Sean

i I just love that he is just doing side quests at the moment. Like, the guy's a genius.

03:21.04

Andrew

Zuck or T-Pain?

03:22.12

Sean

No, no, T-Pain. Zuck, I guess, is also doing a side quests at the moment, but like...

03:23.46

Andrew

Yeah.

03:26.12

Sean

I'll just like I'll watch random youtubers and like sometimes T-Pain will just show up like like that are not related to things related to him you know I'm watching like a car guy youtuber boom T-Pain's winning a drift competition yeah I'm on twitch all of a sudden or I'm not on I'm browsing twitch and all of a sudden T-Pain's a streamer I don't know yeah

03:28.43

Andrew

Mm-hmm.

03:36.42

Andrew

Mm hmm. Holy shit, that's cool.

03:47.23

Andrew

By the way, on the Zuck side, I just listened to the acquired episode about Metta, and it made me realize that like. I feel like public perception of Metta is changing a little bit like I feel like Elon Musk buying Twitter.

04:01.86

Sean

Yeah.

04:04.11

Andrew

has kind of has taken a lot of the heat off of meta.

04:06.90

Sean

Yeah.

04:07.45

Andrew

And so now everyone's like, Elon's elon's the evil one.

04:09.12

Sean

He's almost like, it could be so much worse.

04:13.00

Andrew

And yeah, Elon's like, you guys think 2016 Facebook was bad?

04:13.84

Sean

Yeah.

04:19.71

Andrew

Bro, hold my drink.

04:21.08

Sean

Listen, when you gotta be the best at everything, you know?

04:26.64

Andrew

Including being a massive fucking troll.

04:28.86

Sean

Yeah.

04:30.46

Andrew

Yeah, but it made me realize that like I don't hate meta as much as I used to. And I i don't know if that's like.

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