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Paul is a life coach who just turned 80 himself. So he has learned first hand that most of us have a good 10 years of mobility and social interaction in our 70s. But when we hit our 80s, physical challenges begin to weigh heavily on our psychological ability to resist the stereotype that aging is a period of decline.

He is passionate about sharing what works for him to resist these stereotypes. He calls his seminars and coaching Amazing80. His blog is He uses recent neurological research, music, and group interaction to help his clients learn new ways to craft their own recipe for creating an amazing life.

But because many people in this age group are on fixed and low incomes, they can’t always afford even the low cost of his seminars and coaching. So he is looking for people who might consider helping him create a scholarship fund to help his prospects and clients take their life experience and transform it into a decade of growth, service, and joy.

If you have an affinity for people in their 80s and beyond, here’s something you can do. Go to, and make an investment in your own and others’s amazing future.


00:37 Introduction
04:32 About Paul Carter
13:04 Paul in his 80s
19:40 Adulthood and Elderhood
27:29 Spiritual resources
36:33 Paul Carer’s advice


Intro 0:04
You’re listening to The mBraining Show, a show about the new field of mBIT, where you’ll get a blend of neuroscience-based research with practical applications for wise living. And now here’s your host, Bill Gasiamis.

Paul 0:19
G’day everyone and welcome to another episode of The mBraining Show. This episode of The mBraining Show is brought to you by mBraining, one of the world’s leading mBIT coach certification providers.


Bill 0:37
Today, just before I begin the program, I wanted to share with you a small paragraph or two from the book mBraining your multiple brains to do cool stuff. And in this particular paragraph, we begin to learn in chapter one about what the gut can do.

Bill 0:56
And the paragraph under the subheading. The gut can learn is what I want to share with you today. Reading straight out of page 31. The Gut-Brain Can Learn Dr. Gershon tells the story of an Army Sergeant who was a male nurse in charge of a group of paraplegics.

Bill 1:18
With a lower spinal cord destroyed, the patient’s would get fecally impacted. So at 10am every day without fail, the patient’s got enemas. At one point the sergeant was rotated off the ward and his replacement decided to give the enemas only after compactions occurred.

Bill 1:40
According to Dr. Gershon at 10am The next morning, everyone on the ward had a bowel movement at the same time without enemas. The sergeant had nicely trained their colons are less colorful and entertaining example of the gut Nervous System learning is described by Dr. Wood.

Bill 2:00
His evidence come from hurt springs disease, a genetic defect that deprives the last section of the call on have nerves. And without these nerves the patient can’t defecate. According to Dr. Wood, a German surgeon successfully removed this defective portion of the colon from 300 patients and attached the adjacent piece to the anus.

Bill 2:27
Except this piece of column knows nothing about toilets, having lived its life further upstream. Yet, within 18 months, it learns to go to the toilet successfully, indicating that the interior nerves have learned a new function.

Bill 2:43
A final example of the effects of learning on the gut come from research just published that describes how psychological and emotional traumas experienced over a lifetime, such as the death of a loved one, divorce, natural disasters, accidents and physical or mental abuse contribute to adult irritable bowel syndrome.

Bill 3:07
IBS is a chronic functional gastrointestinal disorder, and research suggests it is caused by changes in the nerves and muscles that control sensation and motility of the bell. According to Dr. Saito Loftus, from the Mayo Clinic, her research indicates that trauma may sensitize the brain, and gut leading to IBS and suggests that the enteric brain learns and becomes over sensitized by traumatic experiences.

Bill 3:40
Amazing and fascinating and interesting stuff. If you haven’t yet picked up a copy of him writing. Do yourself a favor guys, and get yourself a copy. You can pick it up on Kindle for only about $7 depending on where you live. And now it’s on with the show. Hello, Paul, welcome to the show.

Paul 4:02
Thank you, Bill. Appreciate you inviting me.

Paul 4:06
Yeah, my pleasure, Paul, it’s great to have you on board. I really got excited by going to your website amazing and reading what it is that you do that I’m probably not the best person to talk to you to to tell people what it is that you do. I wonder if you give me a little bit of background of what you’ve done in the past and what you plan on doing now.

About Paul Carter

Paul 4:32
Sure. Well, if you gotta go way back, My father didn’t care what I became in the future, as long as it was a Baptist minister, a fundraiser and I college president. So even though I wanted to be an engineer, and that’s whole, that’s a whole story about how I learned about how I dealt with my multiple brains in the early part of my life.

Paul 4:36
Where I was terribly, terribly out of sync with myself. So I’ve come a long way. And I’m now. Well, I’ve had a very checkered career, you might say, I’ve done many, many different things, all the good, all the good. But I’ve ended up in a very different place from where I started, but at the same time, the same place, namely, trying to help people deal with life.

Bill 5:35
So did you actually become a Minister?

Bill 5:37
Yes, I was a parish Minister for I lasted two years, until I realized that this was not for me. And I went with the denomination. For seven years, I basically wanted to be out in the streets instead of behind the stained glass windows, but even out on the streets, the church was a little too conservative for me.

Paul 5:59
So I find finally decided I go to the live in the country. And the greeting of what’s called the greening of America movement, I took my family to a little farmstead and raise my kids, whole fresh milk and so forth, started my own business at the audiovisual media area, and did a number of different things. ended up with some personal issues that ended up in divorce.

Paul 6:33
And so I had, I had basically climbed an apple tree where people were throwing apples at me, and I had to discover, how am I going to get down out of this tree? And that’s what the second half of my life has been about developing my other sides of my preferences and figuring out who I really am. What I want to be when I grow up.

Paul 6:56
Yeah. Fair enough. So how old are you at the moment,

Paul 7:00
I just turned 80, this last September,

Paul 7:03
you just turned 80. And you wouldn’t know it from having a read of your website on what it is that you do. And actually, by even looking at you, you’re very young looking at. And I’ve got a feeling that’s got to do a lot with the way that you have gone about your life and the things that you’ve done in the past. And you talk a little bit about a health challenge that you had in your 40s. Right, tell me a little bit about what happened, then

Bill 7:36
I had six bypasses, I’ve had a couple hips removed and replaced, and so forth. But I’ve, I’ve managed to get through these challenges and change my lifestyle as a product as a result, including my nutrition, as well as my exercise habits. So that has stood me in good in good stead to this day.

Paul 8:04
So it sounds like at 80, by the time you get to 80, you’ve been through a number of things, there’d be a lot of wisdom, a lot of things that you could share with people to help them through their journey to get to 80 and beyond your choice to go back into a more traditional sort of lifestyle. Was that something that you did with the whole family? Or was that something that you did? Just with your partner at the time?

Paul 8:39
You’d be the traditional lifestyle in terms of back to the farm? Yeah, to the country. Yes, we all did it together. And it worked for a while. But ultimately, my, my partner and I went different ways for a number of different reasons. But my kids are all grateful. my two daughters and my five grandkids are all grateful for that background.

Paul 9:10
Tell me a little bit about your work that you are doing with you’d like to be doing with people coming across you at amazing

Paul 9:20
it started maybe two or three years ago with people, some of my colleagues in the web business at the time and some of my friends in Maine. So we don’t know what you’re drinking Paul, but why don’t you share some of it? Because we like what we see though yours. You’re doing such a they use the term amazing things.

Paul 9:46
At my age, all those exploring trying new things, what’s next. And my health is such they thought they wanted some of it too. So I started a blog. Not intentionally for getting into coaching or running seminars such as I’m doing now, but just to share my experiences.

Paul 10:09
So I did that, at the time I was heading down to the Dominican Republic, I wanted to share some of my web development skills as a volunteer for a nonprofit group down there. So that provided some colorful background that I could write about. And I came back to the States after, I think it was three or four months down there and got kind of antsy again.

Paul 10:38
Having had that adventure, I said, I really need something a little more challenging and just coming back chilly out here in the States. So I decided that I would run a seminar on what I do for myself. And I did that I ran it in Shin in let’s see, February, for Saturday’s two hour sessions each Saturday for four sessions on and had 16 people show up.

Paul 11:10
First time well showed up the second time 11 the second time and it whittled down to seven but very Apollo very committed. And people who gave me very high marks in my evaluations, I evaluate my seminars on a scale from zero to nine. And I’ve never had one average out at 8.2. Before.

Paul 11:43
And that’s what happened here. They gave the very high marks for those who stuck with it. And I do have one or two folks that I work with on a one to one basis, I’m starting to reach out to other people, I’m reaching out to a network of elder care professionals, and the Berkshire County, which is where I have now in Massachusetts.

Paul 12:10
And they’re spreading the word. And that’s one reason why I had a good turnout for my first seminar. And I’m talking to retirement homes, or people tend to get warehoused if you don’t keep creative. So those are the kinds of mischief I’m getting into these days.

Bill 12:34
I’m curious to understand, people think that you’re doing amazing things, which I agree that I believe you are doing amazing things compared to others that are, you know, in their 80s or approaching their 80s. And I’m curious, is it amazing for you to be doing the type of work that you’re doing now? How would you describe the type of work that you’re doing now? How do you feel about it?

Paul in his 80s

Bill 13:04
I guess I’ve always been looking for the next thing on and not satisfied with just repeating the same thing over and over and over or working for somebody else. So I think it has so much to do with my basic makeup. So it’s kind of I came kind of as a surprise to me that people found what I do amazing.

Paul 13:38
At the same time, once I became conscious on the mBIT process, and how you can optimize the various parts of you, that go into decisions that you’ve made. And I started looking at some of the bad decisions I made in the past and some of the good decisions I’m making now.

Paul 14:01
It is getting to be kind of amazing to me, hey, there’s possibilities here I never thought of before. And that’s the enthusiasm that I’ve tried to share with others, that we don’t have to buy into the the miserable stereotypes about aging, you know the forgetfulness, the frailty, that helplessness?

Paul 14:33
That’s just a lot of bogus. And, you know, so we do have some parts of us that are not working like they used to before. But to me, it’s important to separate that, from the parts of us that we do have working for us our creativity, our ability to love our ability to to share to communicate with We’ve learned those things have not diminish those things are still available to us. I think it’s important to focus on those things. And that leads to an amazing, right.

Paul 15:10
Yeah, that’s really fantastic to hear. So the habits, do you feel that hygiene, knowing some of the things that you know, now? You perhaps would have made some different decisions?

Paul 15:25
there? Oh, yeah. Well, let’s, let’s take my career, early career decision. As a an eight, eight or 10 year old, I used to play with things like model trains and planes. And I built the Eiffel Tower, actually, out of toothpicks and balsa wood, a three foot high model, wow, scaled after a postcard. And I didn’t think anything of it.

Paul 15:51
But when I took it to school, people were totally blown away. But he had to think, you know, maybe engineering might look fat for me to take. And I’m on my father took me aside and said, he thought I should go the liberal arts minister, fundraising college president route, I listened to him, I took it into my head.

Paul 16:15
And then when I, it’s a customer, if you going for the ministry, you usually preach what’s called your license, your sermon for the license to preach. When I delivered that little sermonette, in front of a handful of people, my voice went way up. And, in retrospect, I’m seeing that my gut was communicating to be very clearly that my head brain and my heart brain were out of alignment, right.

Paul 16:48
And so if I had had this technology back, then I would have realized, you know, hey, Paul, sitting in this meeting with your father, take a deep breath, drop down, balance your autonomic system, get into your heart braid, what is it that you really want? Hmm. And I might have stood up to my father at that point and say, I hear what you’re saying, dad, thank you very much.

Paul 17:13
I think I’ll stay with engineering. And I might have had a happier first half of my life. Who knows? And I know that he acted out of his love for me, he wanted the very best for me, it was I’m not blaming him. Yeah, it was out of his love that he took, it was it was a loving action. I thought it was not a very skillful action for a parent.

Paul 17:35
Yeah. And it’s what most parents sort of find themselves doing is projecting their version of what would be an amazing world on their children, instead of asking children to give, you know, to give them an insight into what the child’s version of the world, a fantastic version of the world would be.

Bill 17:56
And, and parents not knowing that often, you know, mislead the loved ones or their children down paths that perhaps weren’t ideal. But nonetheless, I think there’s lessons in being a child that goes through that, because like you, you can look back now fondly on that conversation.

Bill 18:19
And you can say, Okay, well, it was the wrong decision. And perhaps I didn’t know it at the time, but I know it now. And now what you know, now, is something that you can impart onto others, whether they’re in, you know, their 80s 70s, or 60s, or whoever you come across, and you give them a tool to enable for better and wiser decisions, you know, for them in the future as well.

Paul 18:46
Right when I do the seminar. I use this as my prime example of how the three brains work. And people get it.

Paul 18:55
Yeah, they do get it because it’s language that they’ve heard before. It’s things that they understand, except that just didn’t have a model to use it in an appropriate way. They perhaps used one rain at the exclusion of the other two, right? Or, or they perhaps had to communicating and the other one not being interested in having a conversation for one reason or another.

Bill 19:20
And just being aware of the fact that these intelligences or participate in decision making, and if we allow them to communicate, they will guide us far better than just by trying to make a head based decision on everything that we do.

Adulthood and Elderhood

Bill 19:40
Because in matters of love, we don’t need to consult the head. I’m curious to understand what the difference is between adulthood and elderhood. Because you talk about graduating from adult hold adulthood to elderwood. So tell me a little bit about what the difference is.

Paul 20:00
Are you familiar with the author Stephen Covey?

Bill 20:03

Paul 20:04
He’s all about productivity. And that’s what adulthood seems to be about. responsibility to produce. It’s about parenting. It’s about getting results. And, but there’s wonderful stuff there. There’s also some sacrifice, especially if you’re producing for lots and lots of results.

Paul 20:47
At some point it’s like it’s not okay to do nothing. You have to always be doing something in order to get results get somewhere. So it’s very easy to lose the present moment. It’s skillful to be able to, to vote to do both. But at least in my adult foot, I sacrificed the one for the other and lost my ability to, to go inward and explore fathom who I really am.

Paul 21:31
And to get a broader view, so that I’m not just producing results for me and my own, not just focusing on the story of me, I’m able to sit back and take a broader view, I’m able to slow down so that I have time to do that. I’m able to connect more. So to me that that’s more likely to happen. With a little bit of wisdom, perspective and time. That comes when you’re, when you graduate from adulthood into elderhood.

Paul 22:15
Is coaching something that you’ve done in the past or something that you’ve just picked up recently.

Paul 22:21
No, it’s part of what I’ve done all along as a pastor I guess you would call it as being a spiritual guide. Although my brand of spirituality is much more earthy, and not so much otherworldly as some might think of as a spiritual guide, but most of my coaching has to do with the here and now and the real world issues that people were dealing with, right, right here and now.

Paul 22:55
So I did that one to one. Quite a number of people. I did that in a group setting with other churches. When I left the pastoral ministry, I was hired by the New York City, organization of churches, in my denomination to work with other churches to help them become more involved in their neighborhoods, in their communities.

Paul 23:18
So there was a coaching, group coaching kind of thing going on there. And then after I went into business for myself, I finally ended up after several different businesses as a web developer, and some of my work was direct web development, but much of it was helping people figure out their marketing plan, and their business plan, and that involves a fair amount of coaching.

Paul 23:49
And in the past, have you employed a coach or being part of a program for yourself to be coached? I know at the moment, you’re being coached by Lynn Christian, right, who is an amazing person and an amazing coach. It’s something that you’ve done in the past as well. Have you been coached before? Or is it something fairly new?

Bill 24:12
Yes. I have a coach after I left New York City, headed towards the greener pastures of Maine. Um, and then once through some changes there, I employed a coach to help me figure out what was next. And he was a great listener. But he was also very practical in what he recommended.

Paul 24:41
So he was listening to me, saying over and over again, I really need to simplify my life. He said, Well, if that’s really what you want, there’s this organization out in western Massachusetts. It’s called the propeller center for yoga and health bunch of author. They do, they do a pretty good job of teaching how to simplify.

Paul 25:01
So I followed his advice I came out, which is where I am now in western Massachusetts, to the propeller center. And it turned out to be absolutely the right advice. For me, he was both a non directive and a directive. Coach, he would listen. And and then he would offer help. It was a little bit of a consultant on the side as well. Hmm.

Paul 25:27
And do you see the opportunity for people such as yourself to really make a big impact in the coaching area for clients above, you know, the age of 70? And 80? Is there a big demand for that kind of work?

Bill 25:45
So far, one of the folks who showed up in my seminar just happened to pick up a flyer at a doctor’s office. And he says, I think it was, you know, heading was created an amazing day. It talks about a certain percentage of our health issues have to do with genes, a large percentage has to do with lifestyle choices.

Paul 26:14
And that resonated with him. So he was very enthusiastic and stuck right with it all the way through the end that it looks like he is interested in following up with a at least a support group and quite possibly coaching. So that’s the kind of guy and his wife was right with him all the way.

Paul 26:41
That’s the kind of men and women that I think I can help a lot there open. A note know that they have to make some changes. They just need some concepts and some tools and some accountability to be able to help them move forward. So that’s kind of my persona, the kind of person I’m looking for, to be able to help.

Paul 27:09
Not everybody wants to do this. You know, there are some folks I call to talk to when I was setting up the seminar, and they said, Oh, no, it’s too late for me. You know, I only have a few years left. Definitely not. There are a lot of folks out there like that. Yeah, I’m talking.

Spiritual resources

Paul 27:29
What do you think makes people get to that point where they feel that way? How did they get to that point? I’m sure they didn’t realize. I’m sure some of them don’t realize they’re there, that place where you know, they’re just waiting for the knock on the door, so to speak, and I had to go to the other place. How do people get there? What’s happening for them?

Bill 27:52
You know, Bill, I just don’t know, If I have the answer to that. I suppose there’s a number of reasons. But I imagine a lot has to do with how their various spiritual resources are talking to each other. Maybe I don’t call them brains. I don’t call them intelligence. I call them spiritual resources.

Paul 28:16
Because of there was a medical doctor in my group, he, he was very skeptical about the whole concept of brain. But so I saw I tried to stay away from that. But I say that people have got their spiritual resources lined up differently, or accessed differently. So you know, if there’s, they’ve lived with a lot of fear during their lifetime, and haven’t been challenged out of that.

Paul 28:51
They’re uncomfortable moving out of their comfort zone. So it’s much more comfortable for them to go along with the predominant view that no, this is this is a period of decline. This is a period when not only your body declines, but your soul and your spirit and so forth to clients. So maybe it’s maybe it’s I don’t know if it’s hereditary, or if there’s a certainly there’s a lot of culture that leads us in that direction. Yeah, I know. It. That’s the long answer to I don’t know.

Paul 29:27
That’s a pretty good answer. That’s perfectly fine. I know on your web page, you’ve got some priorities and some sub priorities. And you mentioned briefly simplicity, just before, why simplicity a priority for you. How is it important?

Bill 29:46
Yeah, I read the row when I was in college, and it just struck home to me. At a very gut level, I understood this is good. Maybe it’s because I’m basically a lazy person, I don’t want to have a lot of complication in my life. Or maybe I’m lazy about some things, but I want to want to save my time for doing other things. Maybe that’s what it is. But simplicity is always resonated with me.

Paul 30:22
And it’s like the mother priority of all my priorities, because when I simplify, I’ve got, I don’t have to make so much income. For one thing. I’ve got more time, more discretionary time, so I can pay attention to my other priorities, which are, you know, physical health. That’s the simplicity, that’s number one, to my relationships, to my personal growth, to my ability to contribute, make a contribution. So that I think that’s why simplicity is so important to me. It just makes all the other ones possible.

Paul 31:08
And you also know, health and passion. So there’s a lot of people in their 80s, whose health is on the decline, like many of the other things that you know, we spoke about that they expect will happen. Tell me about health in your 80s, your priority is in good health? Is it something that’s doable? Are you finding it that it’s a challenge, I understand that certain things are not the same as they used to be in your 30s or 40s. But tell me about how you feel about health in your 80s and beyond?

Paul 31:45
Frankly, I feel healthier now that I have for a long time.

Bill 31:48

Paul 31:51
I think it’s because I continue to exercise I take a hike every day, for at least five days a week, maybe three, four days, a week, some days, some weeks, but I shoot for a hike five days up a hill. So I get my aerobics. And then I have a physical exercise or an aerobic weight training kind of exercise in which I used to work with weights.

Paul 32:24
But now I have a system in which in 10 minutes using my own bodyweight, I can get enough of that kind of exercise to to maintain some muscle mass. So those are some days are a real challenge. But lately, I’ve been kind of just getting out of bed doing it. And it feels really good.

Paul 32:50
And if I don’t do it, it doesn’t feel so good. It’s a matter of developing the habit. Usually, I think it’s something right here required, it requires 30 days to put the habit into place. Once you’ve got it in there for 30 days. You’re pretty good, huh? So it said first, five or six days? forming a habit. That’s a real tough part.

Paul 33:12
Yeah. Well, that’s great to hear that you feel better in your 80s, then you’ve felt in a long time. I’m not sure that there’s many people out there that can say that. And there’s, for those who are listening, who are heading to beyond, you know, their 50s 60s or 70s. He’s a good example of how to continue to be healthy and feel fantastic in your 80s and have the passion and the ability to experience growth and to contribute. And on the topic of contribution. Paul, your if you haven’t already, are you about to go out on some kind of a tour of the Caribbean or some volunteering? Yeah, what

Bill 33:59
I mentioned before that I went down to the Dominican Republic last year. And I helped an organization, a nonprofit organization, develop a web presence there. I’m about to head down to Nicaragua. In two weeks, I’ll be going down there not for such an extended stay because I’m so involved with the Amazing 80s thing now

Paul 34:23
I don’t feel like I want to get away from it that much. But I’ll go down for a two week period. And help them develop their strategy, their web strategy and then come back and work with them remotely, to build out whatever it is they decided to build, whether they a website or YouTube presence or Facebook, Twitter, whatever.

Paul 34:55
Yeah, and I worked it. I just did a lot of inquiries. Starting with my own church, I went to the state organization, they plugged me into the national organization. So I found this volunteer opportunity. And so the organization pays for my airfare. And my people down there provide my lodging.

Paul 35:20
So I’m basically responsible for my own food and my time. And it’s very, it’s a great change of pace really is does great things for me. It helps them out, they get a new ability to communicate with their constituencies. So it’s a win win situation.

Bill 35:43
It sounds interesting.

Paul 35:44
It’s that contribution piece or that compassion piece? Yeah, we talk about that. feels it’s a two way thing. It’s building an end and receiving some time. I think that helps to make life amazing.

Paul 36:03
Yeah, I think you’re setting a fantastic example of another way of doing, you know, the 80th year of your life and the ones beyond that, because I think there’s way too many people doing, you know, the version of elder hood that isn’t serving them, isn’t serving their, their community, or anyone else.

Paul Carer’s advice

Bill 36:33
I really appreciate what you’re doing. I really thank you for your time. If you had a little bit of advice to give to people, just before we ended the show, what would you say to people who are approaching that part of their life that you call elderhood, who are perhaps a little bit concerned, or a little bit of unsure about how to go about shifting from adulthood and what I’ve been doing in the past for many decades to this new version of life that they’ll be experiencing?

Paul 37:15
My advice right now is, the short version is go create an amazing day. I don’t mean, you have an amazing day.

Bill 37:28
There’s a big difference,

Bill 37:29
Go create it. It’s not going to happen, unless you create it. And then people say, having to do that, I have my five step recipe, which is pretty much the same five steps or four steps. And that plus about four steps. Engage, you know, the various parts of talk about your brains, I talk about various aspects of your spirit, your intellect, your heart, and your gut, you get in touch with those things.

Paul 38:07
And second step, of course, is, you know, the way to optimize them is through your balanced breathing, then the third step is alignment, the fourth step is development. fifth step is apply it, go through those five steps and apply it come out the other end of the recipe with what quality is it that you come out with.

Paul 38:35
What are all these parts of you’re saying who want as the quality of your amazing day? And once you got that quality in mind, okay, now, just what are you going to stop doing that you’re doing right now? What are you going to begin doing that you’re not doing now? By when are you going to do it? And with who’s supporting you’re going to do and that’s it?

Paul 39:05
Seems, straightforward. Nonetheless, probably not simple for some. And like you, I would encourage people to just take action, get support from somebody else to help you along your path and perhaps learn something from people that have done what you want to do in the past.

Bill 39:26
And it sounds like you’d be the great kind of, you know, the right kind of person to have people contact you. So I hope that everything that you do with the amazing 80s goes well and you have a tremendous amount of success because I think it’s a very important project that you’re on now. How can people get in touch with you? If they want to know more Paul?

Bill 39:56
The name of the website right now is, that’s going to change to You can get to me through either domain name right now. Because I think what I’m offering is more broad than just what’s going on in your 80s. So either, or

Paul 40:23
Well, I hope you enjoyed that episode of The mBraining show. Isn’t it amazing to hear from somebody in the 80s, who’s still at the top of their game and still looking at ways to make a difference. And still looking at new career opportunities and starting new businesses is an inspiration for us all.

Bill 40:43
And hopefully, if you enjoyed this episode, you will share it so that others can also have the opportunity to hear and be inspired by what it was that this interview was about. You know, as a coach, one of the things that I have learned since I began, this part of my journey.

Bill 41:03
Is that in order to turn up and be able to hold the space for my clients, so that they feel safe and nurtured, I must be able to see it without judgment, whilst not projecting my model of the world, on my clients model of the world, as this would not be honoring their process. projecting would make me no different to the caring friend that’s offering advice that comes from the right place, but is often not that useful.

Bill 41:33
I realized early on that I myself needed regular coaching. And the more I engaged with amazing coaches having made to deal with my own challenges, the better coach I became, I still receive regular coaching because like a sports team, the coach doesn’t turn up once and the team wins the lake. The job is not done in one session.

Bill 41:56
The top sports people making a living from their craft who remain at the top of their field, know the power of ongoing coaching. When was the last time you committed to regular coaching. If you have been considering engaging with a coach do get in touch, we can chat via Skype or in person or over the phone. Go to And fill out the contact form and I will be in touch Until the next episode. Thank you so much for listening to The mBraining Show and once again tuning into mBIT radio.

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