58. Glory & the Shortest Proof - John 17:5

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Three options on a question of Jesus' shared glory, and the alluring Proofthagorean Theorem.

RESOURCES

John 17:5 - The glory Jesus had with the Father
Hermeneutics
Where's Waldo (Wally)?
Proofthagorean Theorem - The shortest proof between two passages is a straight supposition.
Psalm 107 to Mark 4 - Storm calming proof (like here)
Luke 5:21 to Matthew 9:2 - Forgiveness proof
Isaiah 43:11 to 1 John 4:14 - No savior besides God proof
28. The “None Besides God” Rule - Isaiah 43:11
Isaiah 42:8 to John 17:5 - God doesn't share glory proof
John 17:22 - The glory that was proof ends up shared with us
John 20:17 - Jesus tells us that his Father is his and our God
Notional preexistence
1 Peter 1:20 - Jesus described before time as "foreknown" not as "existing"
53. The Chiff of Life
UCA Events Page!
FUEL 2022 - Turning Point Youth Ministry
Other texts related to notional preexistence: 1 Peter 1:20, 1 Peter 1:1-2, Acts 2:23, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, Romans 16:25, Ephesians 1:4, Matthew 25:34; 13:35; 20:23, Hebrews 11:16, Luke 11:50, Revelation 13:8

EPISODE INDEX

(00:50) Who we are
(01:43) Common ground
(02:40) Hermeneutics
(03:34) Doctrine Affirmation Therapy
(05:58) Proof Theorem
(07:39) Short Facebook interaction
(11:09) That interaction explained
(12:04) Trinity recap
(13:04) Salvational requirement?
(13:39) My neighbors
(14:53) Anne's letter
(15:41) Commending that letter
(17:31) Proof texting
(19:34) A menu of options
(20:19) The Trinitarian option
(20:42) The Arian option
(21:37) Considering the options so far
(24:04) A detail-lacking disadvantage
(25:01) Notional preexistence
(28:25) Being foreknown
(31:55) My preferred interpretation
(32:40) Prayer for my glory that I had...
(35:04) Bonus engagement tips
(35:43) First: Trust
(36:05) Second: Offer Options
(37:17) Third: Ask Bigger Questions
(37:17) Fourth: Discuss Topics with Love and Patience
(37:43) Fifth: Enjoy Your Discussion
(38:09) Events and my activities
(40:41) Ken from New Zealand
(42:16) Call to action
(43:03) Footnote, request for Proofthagoreams

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