58. Glory & the Shortest Proof - John 17:5

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Three options on a question of Jesus' shared glory, and the alluring Proofthagorean Theorem.

RESOURCES

  • John 17:5 - The glory Jesus had with the Father
  • Hermeneutics
  • Where's Waldo (Wally)?
  • Proofthagorean Theorem - The shortest proof between two passages is a straight supposition.
  • Psalm 107 to Mark 4 - Storm calming proof (like here)
  • Luke 5:21 to Matthew 9:2 - Forgiveness proof
  • Isaiah 43:11 to 1 John 4:14 - No savior besides God proof
  • 28. The “None Besides God” Rule - Isaiah 43:11
  • Isaiah 42:8 to John 17:5 - God doesn't share glory proof
  • John 17:22 - The glory that was proof ends up shared with us
  • John 20:17 - Jesus tells us that his Father is his and our God
  • Notional preexistence
  • 1 Peter 1:20 - Jesus described before time as "foreknown" not as "existing"
  • 53. The Chiff of Life
  • UCA Events Page!
  • FUEL 2022 - Turning Point Youth Ministry
  • Other texts related to notional preexistence: 1 Peter 1:20, 1 Peter 1:1-2, Acts 2:23, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, Romans 16:25, Ephesians 1:4, Matthew 25:34; 13:35; 20:23, Hebrews 11:16, Luke 11:50, Revelation 13:8

EPISODE INDEX

  • (00:50) Who we are
  • (01:43) Common ground
  • (02:40) Hermeneutics
  • (03:34) Doctrine Affirmation Therapy
  • (05:58) Proof Theorem
  • (07:39) Short Facebook interaction
  • (11:09) That interaction explained
  • (12:04) Trinity recap
  • (13:04) Salvational requirement?
  • (13:39) My neighbors
  • (14:53) Anne's letter
  • (15:41) Commending that letter
  • (17:31) Proof texting
  • (19:34) A menu of options
  • (20:19) The Trinitarian option
  • (20:42) The Arian option
  • (21:37) Considering the options so far
  • (24:04) A detail-lacking disadvantage
  • (25:01) Notional preexistence
  • (28:25) Being foreknown
  • (31:55) My preferred interpretation
  • (32:40) Prayer for my glory that I had...
  • (35:04) Bonus engagement tips
  • (35:43) First: Trust
  • (36:05) Second: Offer Options
  • (37:17) Third: Ask Bigger Questions
  • (37:17) Fourth: Discuss Topics with Love and Patience
  • (37:43) Fifth: Enjoy Your Discussion
  • (38:09) Events and my activities
  • (40:41) Ken from New Zealand
  • (42:16) Call to action
  • (43:03) Footnote, request for Proofthagoreams

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