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Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast

In this episode of Revenue Boost: A Marketing Podcast, host Kerry Curran sits down with Jim Nichols, CEO of Exclamation Marketing, to explore the essential strategies for aligning sales and marketing to drive real revenue growth.
With decades of experience across brand, agency, and tech sectors, Jim shares valuable insights on overcoming the disconnect between sales and marketing, and how to create scalable, repeatable systems for startup success.
Learn how to build trust, communicate better with sales teams, and develop powerful customer-focused stories that convert. Whether you’re an executive looking to boost sales or a marketing leader aiming to strengthen relationships with your sales counterparts, this episode is packed with actionable strategies to accelerate growth.
Don’t miss Jim’s expert tips on how to turn alignment into opportunities and create lasting revenue impact!

To learn more about Kerry Curran and the RBMA: Revenue Based Marketing Advisors, go to www.revenuebasedmarketing.com and be sure to follow us on Kerry's LinkedIn Profile and The RBMA: Revenue Based Marketing Advisors Profile.

If you're in the market for a Fractional Chief Marketing Officer or Fractional Chief Revenue Officer be sure to reach out to Kerry. Kerry is also available for speaking, panel moderation, and other professional presentation services. For services and contact information check out the RBMA: Revenue Based Marketing Advisors website here.

B2B business development has become increasingly complex, with companies finding it harder than ever to drive growth.

One of the biggest challenges?

Many organizations have shifted their investments down the funnel—hiring more sales and BDR resources—while pulling back on marketing. Yet, buyer behavior has evolved in the opposite direction.

Today, buyers are forming their shortlists and making decisions before ever speaking to a sales rep. This means if your brand isn’t investing in marketing, you’re not even making it into their consideration set.

To grow revenue, companies must excel across four critical stages:

✅Awareness: They must have heard of you

✅Affinity: They must like you and believe you can solve their challenges

✅In-Market: They must be ready to buy

✅Engagement: Then they talk to your sales team, who still needs to beat the competition and win the deal

At RBMA: Revenue Based Marketing Advisors, we help businesses scale growth effectively and efficiently. We build and optimize your end-to-end marketing and sales infrastructure—from brand development to sales training—delivering:

- Increased high-quality lead volume

- Shortened sales cycles

- Improved close rates

I'm Kerry Curran, Founder and Chief Growth Officer of RBMA. With 20 years of experience in marketing and business development, I’ve consistently driven double- and triple-digit revenue growth. My unique expertise bridges both disciplines: as a CMO who understands sales and a CRO who understands marketing.

I specialize in helping B2B scale-ups and mid-market agencies, tech, and services transform their growth strategies.

Let’s set up a call to identify areas of opportunity in your growth infrastructure and get your business on the path to increased revenue in 2025.