Music Therapy is an existential podcast for musicians (and music fans!) Being a musician has never been easy, but in today’s over-saturated world, it feels more daunting than ever. With little money and murky paths to success, it’s no wonder musicians are struggling to find their place and value in the world. Musicians will find the Music Therapy podcast an indispensable and inspiring companion while navigating the ups and downs of creativity, the music industry, and mental health. Music fan ...
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You, Me, Them, Everybody is a program featuring two or more people discussing what pops into their head. In the tradition of Studs Terkel, Mike Royko and Ben Hecht. Recorded in Chicago. From a part of The Machine and creator of Foul. Visit youmethemeverybody.com for more info.
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Ben Terris on The Big Break The Big Break was one of the best books I read in 2023 so I asked Ben to do the show again. He was on the live show in 2017. Read The Big Break. Follow Ben on Twitter Donate to our Patreon Read Recommend If You LikeAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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10.26.23 with Joe McAdam Ministry released a song about the Chicago Blackhawks in 2008. Listen to Joe on Football Friends (Who Are Gambling). Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Live at The Hungry Brain with Esmeralda Leon, Deirdre Crimmins, James Swanberg, Jeremy Tromburg October 19, 2023 live show Esmeralda Leon for co-host Deirdre Crimmins for conversation James Swanberg for musical guest Jeremy Tromburg for house band The Hungry Brain for venue Chicago for city Donate to our Patreon…
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9.29.23 with Joe McAdam Lordy, Lordy, Look Who's Dead! Listen to Joe on Football Friends (Who Are Gambling). Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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9.14.23 with Joe McAdam I'm no longer on a jury. Listen to Joe on Football Friends (Who Are Gambling). Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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9.8.23 with Joe McAdam I'm on a jury. Listen to Joe on Football Friends (Who Are Gambling). Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Live at The Kennedy Center with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Jason Dick, Haywood Turnipseed Jr., Jonny Grave
Live at The Kennedy Center with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Jason Dick, Haywood Turnipseed Jr., Jonny Grave Brandon Wetherbee for host Andrew Bucket for house band Allison Lane for co-host Jason Dick for journalism Haywood Turnipseed Jr. for Color Commentary Jonny Grave for musical guest The Kennedy Center for venue Washington, D.C. for city Donat…
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Live at the Looking Glass Lounge with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Alexandra Petri, Steve Lemmerman
Live at the Looking Glass Lounge with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Alexandra Petri, Steve Lemmerman Brandon Wetherbee for host Andrew Bucket for house band Allison Lane for co-host Alexandra Petri for local journalism Steve Lemmerman for BENT Looking Glass Lounge for venue Washington, D.C. for city Donate to our Patreon…
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Live at The Whistler with James Swanberg, Esmeralda Leon, Jessica Risker, Al Scorch Brandon Wetherbee for host James Swanberg for house band Esmeralda Leon for co-host Jessica Risker for Music Therapy Al Scorch for hot dog poetry The Whistler for venue Chicago for city Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Live at the Looking Glass Lounge with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Scout Sonner, Haywood Turnipseed Jr.
Live at the Looking Glass Lounge with Andrew Bucket, Allison Lane, Scout Sonner, Haywood Turnipseed Jr. Brandon Wetherbee for host Andrew Bucket for house band Allison Lane for co-host Scout Sonner for drag Haywood Turnipseed Jr. for Color Commentary Looking Glass Lounge for venue Washington, D.C. for city Donate to our Patreon…
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7.12.23 with Joe McAdam Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Read The Best American Band is Prince and The Revolution by Joe McAdam. Read A Sampling of Original Movie Credits Songs by Joe McAdam. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Rozz Tox, China, Art, and the Manifesto
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benjamin fawkes is the self-described "custodian" of Rozz-Tox, a space which defines itself as "a listening bar, cafe, performance venue, gallery, culture cell, guesthouse, cinema, club; a virus whose ultimate goal is to constantly mutate to avoid becoming part of mainstream culture." Located in Rock Island, IL, inspired by ben's time running a spa…
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Musician Jawson Dell, CPA or, Music Notes vs Bank Notes
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Jawson Dell is a Chicago musician by way of Colorado, influenced by RnB, jazz, funk, rock, and the blues. He's also a Certified Public Accountant. These facts lead us down some interesting paths, including the tension between music and business, how American Idol influenced Jawson's music career. We also listen to a couple of tracks from Jawson. So…
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6.28.23 with Joe McAdam Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Group Session featuring Ovef Ow!
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Group Session! Chicago's artsy post-punk Ovef Ow takes the couch as we dig into their minds, hearts, and souls about how they work together, managing the band, success, being part of the indie scene, and more. Ovef Ow gives a live performance. My esteemed colleague Leslie Tanner co-hosts! Many thanks to Joshua Wentz, Bret Koontz, Ralph Darski for c…
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The Obsession of Salami Rose Joe Louis
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Salami Rose Joe Louis has a killer new album out called "Akousmatikous" (via Flying Lotus' Brainfeeder Records) and I am a massive fan. She is fantastically creative, thoughtful, and incredibly nice. We dig into the perils of obsessively working on music, how she approached the concept of the album, her creative and recording process, social media,…
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The Power of Others: Group Psychology, Groupthink, and Fandom with author Michael Bond
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Humans are group-ish beings! Whether it's your family, your friends, your band, your artist community, your country, etc., we all belong to groups. Whether we realize it or not, groups have a powerful impact on our own thoughts and behaviors. In this episode of Music Therapy, I talk with science writer and journalist Michael Bond, author of "The Po…
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5.5.23 with Joe McAdam Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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5.3.23 with Joe McAdam Joe The Plumber. Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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4.27.23 with Joe McAdam Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Dan Rico and The Seductiveness of Pastiche
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How do you honor your idols without being derivative? How do you start over in a new (york) city? This week on Music Therapy I sit down with Dan Rico, a Chicago DIY scene fixture who moved to New York City right before the pandemic hit. We get into creativity, live band recordings vs virtual instruments, SXSW takeaways, quitting drinking, finding a…
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4.14.23 with Joe McAdam He didn't get the tickets. Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Love Is The New Cool with Joka No Joke
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Chicago's Joka No Joke is a self-proclaimed "rap therapist" with a brand-new mixtape called "Recess". In this episode of Music Therapy, we dig into the new-found freedom and playfulness Joka experienced while creating the album. We touch on his creative process, tapping into his inner child, his "New Cool" philosophy, reflections and changes in his…
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4.11.23 with Joe McAdam The Blame Game is super fun. Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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4.4.23 with Chris Kelly Then, now, forever. Together. Read Chris on Recommend If You Like. Follow Chris on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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3.31.23 with Joe McAdam Happy WrestleMania weekend! Listen to Football Friends (Who Are Gambling) Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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The van's full of gas, the drums fit, and there's hope in your eyes! Until Arby's is getting old, you want a shower, and too much beer is taking a toll. Touring can be amazing! But it's rarely the healthiest time of your life. So we got four experienced touring musicians to share how to make touring healthier. We cover: Sleep Diet Drugs/alcohol Kee…
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If I Could Just ____ My Life Would Be Great!
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Does social media make you feel like crap? Are you wondering why other artists are getting the press / shows / labels that you're not getting? Today we dig into some of the more negative feelings that can arise for artists - especially when we compare ourselves to other musicians. Jealousy / comparison / envy / resentment can feel bad, but it's tel…
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Joe McAdam is confident Listen to Football Friends (Who Are Gambling) Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Today, for a special Valentine's Day episode, we answer a question that has plagued musicians for thousands of years: Should you date your bandmate? We talk to three musicians about their experience dating bandmates. Leslie Tanner also drops by with a few words of wisdom. If you have dated a bandmate or are considering dating a bandmate, this episo…
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Music’s Mental Health Crisis with Jenn Pelly of Pitchfork
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In December of 2022, Pitchfork published an article, written by Jenn Pelly, called "Confronting Music's Mental Health Crisis". This article was passed around widely on the internet; obviously, it resonated with many musicians. Jenn and I dig deeper into her article, discussing her research and takeaways, bits that she left out of the article, and c…
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Artistic Jealousy (with Ben Stover of Popcorn Psychology)
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Jealousy is tough emotion, but can it be useful?? In this episode of Music Therapy, I chat with therapist/musician Ben Stover - who also co-hosts the Popcorn Psychology podcast - all about Artistic Jealousy. We look a the ways it can manifest, how social media leads us to comparison and jealousy, and what you can do about it. If you've ever felt en…
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Live at The Hungry Brain with Esmeralda Leon, Scott Smith, Seth Vanek, Dan Glomski Chicaago 14 year anniversary show Esmeralda Leon for co-host Scott Smith for conversation Seth Vanek for conversation Dan Glomski for house band The Hungry Brain for venue Chicago for city Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Live at DC9 with Mary Beth McAndrews, Haywood Turnipseed Jr, Teen Mortgage, Allison Lane, Andrew Bucket
Live at DC9 with Mary Beth McAndrews, Haywood Turnipseed Jr, Teen Mortgage, Allison Lane, Andrew Bucket D.C. 14 year anniversary show Mary Beth McAndrews for horror Haywood Turnipseed Jr. for Color Commentary Teen Mortgage for music Allison Lane for co-host Andrew Bucket for house band DC9 for venue Washington, D.C. for city Donate to our Patreon…
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Episode 109: Asi Asi (Group Session!)
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Así Así is a Mexican/American band from Chicago, IL. In August 2022, the band released their debut album, “Mal de Otros”, where Así Así blends rock, dance, and Latin themes together to form oftentimes haunting, yet upbeat and catchy songs. On this episode of Music Therapy, taped live at Cafe Mustache, Jessica sits down with the full band to talk ab…
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Ep 108: Every Decision Unlocks Another - feat. Lipsticism
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In this episode of Music Therapy I talk with Chicago artist Alana Schactel of Lipsticsm. Lipsticism’s sound is frequently described as cosmic, dreamy, and psychedelic, and there is something immediate and sensual in her punchy drums and emotional honesty. We cover a lot of ground in this episode! Alana is currently studying to become a therapist, s…
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Smoked meat with Joe McAdam A big bag of buttermilk for a day and a half December 11 14 year anniversary show at DC9 December 23 14 year anniversary show at Hungry Brain Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Episode 107: The Cost of Touring with Half Gringa
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Happy Thanksgiving, everybody! In the spirit of holiday traveling, we have an episode all about touring. In October 2022, Isabel Olive (Half Gringa) posted the following on Instagram: "Hey folks. A photo of me smiling because this is a tough one - I’ve decided to cancel the last four dates of the HG October tour in Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, and Ci…
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Episode 106: Fuck the Algorithm! with Steff Reed
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What's it like to walk away from the music industry? Steff Reed is a New York-based musician, educator, and activist. As a musician and producer, he has produced many tracks that have made it to Billboard Charts. As an educator, he has taught thousands of youth over the past 15 years, and was nominated for the Grammy Music Educator Award. As an act…
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Joe McAdam on John Carpenter, Bobby 'Boris' Pickett, Rob Zombie and Al Lewis Read The Underwhelming Non-Mash Efforts of Bobby “Boris” Pickett Read Halloween Ends: Now What? Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Episode 105: Should You Hire A Publicist? (with Colin Smith)
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There comes a time in every musician's career when you ask yourself: should you get a publicist? In this episode of Music Therapy I talk with a real-life publicist, Colin Smith of Fresh Paint PR. Colin breaks down exactly what a publicist does, how a publicist chooses to work with someone (or not), and what you can do to make a PR campaign successf…
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Episode 104: Spread Joy Spreads Joy (Group Session!)
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Group Session! Chicago art-punkers Spread Joy define once and for all the grand purpose of art, ponder "derivative" music, explain the methods behind their songwriting and give a killer live performance on this episode of Music Therapy. With special Exploration by the one and only Leslie Tanner! This episode was taped live at Cafe Mustache on Augus…
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Joe McAdam The Birthday Boy Happy birthday, Joe! Enjoy that 1 a.m. open faced turkey sandwich with all the trimmings! Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Listen to Joe's new podcast Football Friends (Who are Gambling) Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Episode 103: Grammys, Tonys, and Buddhism with Duncan Sheik
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In this episode of Music Therapy we talk with Duncan Sheik! You might remember Duncan Sheik's 1996 chart topping hit “Barely Breathing.” That song racked up 55 consecutive weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 and earned him a Grammy Award® nomination for Best Male Pop Vocal Performance. In the years since, Sheik has been celebrated for his work in musica…
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Episode 102 - Meet Annie Fish, Erstwhile 90’s MTV Rock Star
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Annie Fish is a musician, cartoonist, and author based in Chicago, IL. In this episode of Music Therapy, I talk with Chicago musician Annie Fish about their new album “Weird Like Me”. “Weird Like Me” is a full length 90’s inspired rock album accompanied by an oral illustrated history, found at anniefish.net/weird.html. Through the album’s concept, …
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Episode 101: Lizzie No, Harps, and Hired Guns
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In this episode of Music Therapy, Lizzie No and I dig into touring, protecting her mental health while on tour, how Lizzie knows she's spending too much time on social media, her definition of success, and lots more! Songs featured in episode: "Sweeter Than Strychnine" and "Stop Bothering Me" by Lizzie No Visit musictherapypodcast.com for show note…
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This is our 100th episode! Jessica and Josh reflect on what we've learned so far through our 100 interviews with artists. Thank you guys for listening to the podcast - here's to 100 more! Visit musictherapypodcast.com for show notes, past episodes, and upcoming events! Songs included: "Disco Smile" and "Stay" by Jessica Risker/DEADBEAT Visit musict…
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If you can read this I've turned around to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs with Joe McAdam Read Joe on Recommend If You Like. Follow Joe on Twitter Donate to our PatreonAutor: Brandon Wetherbee
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Episode 99: Moving to L.A. Pt 2 (maybe) (with Uma Bloo)
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Uma Bloo is a pool. Uma Bloo is the persona of Molly Madden, a musician from Chicago who is maybe thinking about possibly moving to LA. Molly worked on an album for years and released it and then left her band and is currently in total flux with music, where it lives in her life, her goals, and what it all means. This is a very vulnerable place for…
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Episode 98: Moving to L.A. Pt 1 (with BRIDEY)
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How do you start over in a new city? Bridey Hicks (BRIDEY) is moving from Chicago to LA. We discuss the reasons behind her move, her approach for joining the LA music community, why Chicagoans are the best people, transitioning from comedy to music, her songwriting process, working solo vs with a band, and recordings vs live performance. She also d…
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