Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts ...
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The Saltworks are the stories of real faith from real people in the real world. Saltworks by definition is a place where salt is refined as well as a job often viewed as drudgery. But it’s in the unseen places where people just like you are refined walking faithfully in their everyday lives, because God works in the saltworks. The Bible is full of these people, and they live right next door to you. They are the salt of the earth. These are their stories, and this is your story.
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THIS PODCAST IS ABOUT MY BOY WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. COLE HAS A GENETIC DISORDER CALLED SOTOS SYNDROME. WE DEAL WITH A SPEECH IMPEDIMENT, HIS DIAGNOSIS, REFLUX,HYPOTONIA, ANXIETY, ADHD, LARGE VENTRICLES, AND SO MUCH MORE.
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After Kamala Harris dogwalked Trump in Tuesday’s debate, he’s been melting down on every platform and demanding retribution against ABC. How many ways is that threat BS? All the ways! Meanwhile, it’s not just Taylor Swift who hates Donald Trump. It’s basically every artist on earth. And they’re making their feelings known in court. Finally, subscri…
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Ep 63 — Russia If You’re Listening: The Dipsh*ts Edition
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Russia’s been renting out rightwing media influencers in a plot to undermine support for Ukraine, get Trump elected, and undermine American social unity? Say it ain’t so! We’ll break down the Justice Department’s indictment of two Russian agents for setting up a covert operation. And for subscribers, there’s bonus content on the FBI rolling up anot…
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Welcome back to the Saltworks! Is it really Season 3?! I’ve felt like we’ve miscounted, but alas– it truly is! We’re kicking off the season with your (and my) new favorite co-host Lindsay Stagg for a Topic Tuesday. Today’s topic: Walking in Seasons of Wilderness. We hear the word ‘wilderness,’ and may even toss it around on occasion, but what do we…
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Ep 62 — Elon Musk Is Trying To Break Brazil
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Elon Musk claims to be defending free speech by picking a fight with the Brazilian government. But is this about his high minded principles, or his rightwing buddies? We’ll talk to international arbitration lawyer JJ Gass about Musk’s threats to Brazil and its politicians. (Full interview for subscribers.) Links: FSIA 28 U.S.C. § 1605 https://www.l…
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Ep 61 — What’s In A Name, Image, Likeness?
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It’s deep dive day into the NCAA. How long can it get away with not paying players? And why can’t you buy a Marvin Harrison jersey? Plus, we’ll catch up on the Trump case in DC, along with a subscriber bonus on Trump’s pre-sentencing shenanigans in New York. Links: People of the State of NY v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlist…
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Ep 60 — Jack Is Back, And Georgia Is Wack
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Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a superseding indictment in the election interference case. Time for Trump’s SCOTUS pals to ride to the rescue again! And in Georgia, local election officials are preparing to gum up the works if voters don’t give them what they want. Links: Trump DC superseding indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov…
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Ep 59 — RFK Drops Out, And The Stolen Docs Case Is Back
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The stolen documents case is back! Judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the charges against Trump and his goons in July on the theory that special counsels are illegal, and Monday Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his brief to the Eleventh Circuit explaining why she is very obviously wrong. Plus, RFK Jr. dropped out and endorsed Trump. Does that mean he’s …
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Ep 58 — GOP Officials Working Overtime To Protect The Ballot From The Voters
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Abortion is on the ballot in Missouri, Florida, and Arizona, and Republicans are working hard to stop women from controlling the ballot box, and their own bodies. Meanwhile at the Supreme Court, the conservative justices are trying to shave points for Trump in Arizona. And subscribers will hear about shenanigans at the Arkansas Supreme Court to dis…
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Ep 57 — Santos Goes to Jail, Disney Goes to Court, and Trump Goes After The Swifties
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Former congressman George Santos — an heir to the Romanoff dynasty who discovered molybdenum — pleads guilty in New York. Disney tries to escape a wrongful death suit at its Florida Park because of an arbitration clause in its Disney+ fine print. And Trump claims an endorsement from AI Taylor Swift. What could possibly go wrong? Links: Piccolo Comp…
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Ep 56 — RFK Jr Is In Trouble, And Not Just With Bears
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A New York judge just kicked Robert Kennedy Jr. off the ballot for lying about his residency — a lie he told everywhere else, as well. Could this be the end of his spoiler candidacy? And for subscribers, an exploration of Gov. Ron DeSantis’s weird war on woke meat. Links: 28 U.S.C. § 455 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/455 Where RFK Jr. …
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Ep 55 — Elon Musk Sues Advertisers For GIVE ME MONEY
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Twitter filed an antitrust suit against a tiny non-profit trade group and a bunch of big companies for “illegally” boycotting his Nazi bar. To protect free speech! And for subscribers: Did Kamala copy Trump’s plan to cut taxes on tipped compensation? Links: RELEASE: Sen. Ted Cruz’s No Tax on Tips Act Does Little for Low- and Moderate-Wage Workers B…
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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz accomplished more in one legislative term than most politicians do in a lifetime. Can he do the same for the country? We take a deep dive into some of the laws he championed in Minnesota. Is this … optimism??? Links: Louisiana Will Get The Ten Commandments Into Schools If They Have To Break 'Em All To Do It https://www.l…
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Ep 53 — Trump’s Election Interference Case Is Back Just In Time For The Next Election
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The Trump election interference case is finally back from getting beat to hell by the Supreme Court. What’s left after the disastrous immunity decision? And will the Supreme Court accept Mark Meadows’ invitation to do even more damage to the Republic in a naked bid to protect Trump’s cronies? Links: Trump v. US Immunity Decisions https://www.suprem…
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Ep 52 — Utah Supreme Court Casts Major Shade On Sam Alito
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The Utah Supreme Court will not be LARPing as amateur historians, no matter what nonsense Justices Thomas and Alito get up to. The state’s highest court upholds an injunction blocking an abortion ban. And we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s ignominious exit from bankruptcy, along with Project 2025’s implosion. Have rumors of the manifesto’s demise be…
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Ep 51 — Supreme Court Reform: First They Say You’re Crazy, Then They Fight You…
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President Biden is out with an op ed on how to fix our broken Supreme Court. We discuss the plan and the possibilities of implementing it. Could we shunt some of these justices off to the minor leagues and save the country? And Missouri Attorney General Andy Bailey wants to keep a man in jail despite the fact that he is actually innocent. Wouldn’t …
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Ep 50 — Project 2025: Yes, It Is THAT BAD
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Project 2025 is the right’s manifesto on how to break the government and turn America into a Christian nationalist state. It’s also deeply weird — just like the guys who wrote it. We’ll break down 20 of the craziest policy proposals, and then take a deep dive into the plan to replace the civil service with an army of MAGA loyalists. Links: GOP Whin…
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Ep 49 — Biden Bows Out, Kamala Sharpens Her Coconuts, and the GOP Gets Ready to Ratf—
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Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term. Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.cour…
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Ep 48 — Alec Baldwin Walks Out Of Court, While Rudy Giuliani Sloshes Back In
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Rudy Giuliani discovers that getting out of bankruptcy court is harder than falling on your keyster at the RNC. And New Mexico prosecutors discover one weird trick to blow up a criminal case. (It is the Brady rule!) Plus Patreons get an update on the Louisiana ten commandments mandate. Links: NMSA 30-2-3 https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chap…
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Ep 47 — Trump Gets Christmas In July Thanks To Judge Aileen Cannon
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Judge Cannon blows up the documents case by declaring special counsels illegal. All she had to do was ignore 50 years of precedent, five federal statutes, and two Supreme cases. Glove up for a deep dive, with Liz and Andrew. Links: Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod…
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Ep 46 — Rudy Giuliani and Bathtub Gin — Thanks, SCOTUS!
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A Trump trial judge decides to overturn Supreme Court precedent on home distilling. And speaking of sobriety … we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to replicate Alex Jones’s stunning success in the bankruptcy court. Patreons get an extra field trip to Congress, where Oversight Chair James Comer invites the Biden administration to say where it …
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Ep 45 — Kraken Crackpots and Cannon Balls
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Today we have a deep dive into the absolute havoc SCOTUS’s immunity ruling will wreak in Trump’s document theft case — even though he was out of the White House when he committed his crimes! But first, the election denying weirdos and their election denying lawyers are Froot Looping all over the docket in the Dominion defamation case. And for subsc…
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Ep 44 — SCOTUS Decides Not To Break The Internet … Yet (Feat. Corbin Barthold)
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Liz and Andrew talk to Tech Freedom’s Corbin Barthold about two recent SCOTUS decisions involving conservative efforts to claim victimhood on social media. In Murthy v. Missouri, Missouri and Louisiana complained about the Biden administration’s efforts to push back against covid misinformation on social media. And in Moody v. Netchoice, Florida an…
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Ep 43 — Well … So Much For The Republic
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SCOTUS gives Trump everything his heart desires and more. Not only does he get to stay out of jail, he gets to be king if he wins again. Liz and Andrew break down the disaster. Links: Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf The Court’s Fischer Ruling Is a Symbolic Setback for the Justice Department—But One With Modes…
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Ep 42 — SCOTUS Wrecks the SEC, While Judge Cannon Wrecks Her Credibility … Such As It Was
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In today’s episode, we check in with the Supreme Court that still has six cases left to decide, including the key decision on Presidential immunity. We break down Moyle v. US, in which the Supreme Court punted (for now) on the seemingly straightforward question of whether state abortion laws can supersede the federal EMTALA law protecting women in …
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Ep 41 — Chief Justice Roberts Will Do Anything For Guns, But He Won’t Do THAT
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Today’s episode takes a look at two of the Supreme Court’s decisions from last week, US v. Rahimi, which apparently involves both gun control and time travel, and Erlinger v. US, which is an incredibly nuanced discussion of what qualifies as a prior offense under a Reagan-era federal law, so MAGA nation is of course lying about it being relevant to…
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Ep 40 — Conservative Judges, Drunk On Power, Take The Wheel (feat. Amanda Marcotte)
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Today, Liz and Andrew talk to Salon’s Amanda Marcotte about the right wing’s assault on Title IX through the prism of the political wedge issue of women’s sports. Then, Amanda breaks down the phenomenon of conservative “tradwives” as both cosplay and a gateway drug to white supremacy. Links: “Texas professors sue to fail students who seek abortions…
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Ep 39 — Trump Lawyers Flop Like Ronaldo As Alex Jones Dances Out Of Bankruptcy
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We update you on the developments at Alex Jones’s two bankruptcy hearings last week and why they were a big win for the conspiracy theorist, with a special deep dive into Article I vs. Article III judges. Then, we discuss the latest from the Supreme court, before turning our attention to the myriad ways in which Donald Trump’s lawyers are still tak…
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Ep 38 — Alex Jones’s Bankruptcy Is TURNIN’ THE FREAKIN’ FROGS GAY!
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It’s another Trump-free extravaganza! We discuss the Hunter Biden conviction, forthcoming sentencing and appeals. Then, Liz and Andrew walk through the Supreme Court’s 9-0 reversal of the Fifth Circuit, protecting – for now! – the right to medical abortion drugs over the internet. Finally, in a lengthy segment (with a long Patreon bonus!), we tell …
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Ep 37 — PA Dad Takes On Moms For Liberty (feat. Joy Ramsingh and Darren Laustsen)
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Pennsylvania dad Darren Laustsen saw books disappearing from his daughter’s school — books which just so happened to be on the Moms for Liberty hit list. And he did something about it! Andrew and Liz talk to Darren and his lawyer Joy Ramsingh about their open records case that revealed a school board plot to shadowban books. Links: Laustsen v. Penn…
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Ep 36 — Bad News For Ken Chesebro. And For Asbestos!
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We update you on all of the states that have brought criminal charges against those involved in the “fake electors” plot to try and keep Donald Trump in the White House after he lost the 2020 election, including in particular the latest criminal complaint filed against Ken Chesbro in Wisconsin. In the B segment, we tell you how the Biden administra…
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Ep 35 — Judge Cannon Drops The Ball. Plus Your Trump Trial Questions Answered!
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We answer your follow-up questions on the Trump verdict in New York, remind you that Aileen Cannon continues to get worse and worse in the Trump documents case in FL, talk about Sam Alito’s fondness for flags, and give you an extra-long patreon bonus on Stan Woodward’s dedication to NOT his client. Links: Alito https://www.documentcloud.org/documen…
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IT IS FINISHED. Today, the jury in New York unanimously agreed that Donald Trump committed 34 felonies, falsifying business records in the first degree, when he repaid Michael Cohen for secretly paying off Stormy Daniels to bury her story right before the 2016 election. What does it all mean and what comes next? Listen and find out! Links: NY Penal…
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Ep 33 — Trump Trials: What Does The Manhattan DA Have To Do To Secure A Conviction?
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Trump’s false business records case goes to the jury in New York. Liz and Andrew break down the charges and the jury instructions, as well as debunking some of Trumpland’s wildest lies about the law. Links: CITES NY PEN 175.05 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-05/ NY PEN 175.10 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-1…
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It’s the Season 2 season finale today, and it just so happens to coincide with mine and Andrew’s 13th wedding anniversary! Naturally, we decided to do something special and a little different to commemorate the two! Today on the podcast for the first time this season is my husband Andrew, and we are talking all about intentionality in marriage. Wha…
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Ep 32 — SCOTUS Says Racial Gerrymanders Are Very Cool and Very Legal
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Liz and Andrew break down the latest Supreme Court horror ruling, greenlighting racial gerrymandering to all Republicans to choose their voters, and not the other way around. And then it’s off to Florida to catch up on the latest wacka**ery in the Trump stolen docs case. Links: Rucho v. Common Cause (2019) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?ca…
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Ep 31 — The Trump Trials: What Are They Thinking? (Plus Clarence Thomas Surprises Us All)
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Trump’s lawyers make a bevy of unforced errors as their client continues to march ever closer to a conviction in New York for fraud in concealing the payoff payment to Stormy Daniels. Also, the Supreme Court surprises us, sort of, for now, by not sacking the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and by allowing a Louisiana congressional map to go in…
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A beautiful soul named Felicia Toler is on the podcast today, and I cannot wait to share her miraculous story of shame turned into hope and darkness replaced by light. Felicia and I met at the end of Season 1 when she sent me the most encouraging email after listening to the Saltworks. In that email, Felicia shared with me the miracle that is her l…
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Ep 30 — The Trump Trials: SLEAZE-A-PALOOZA!
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The Trump trial in New York is racing toward the finish line, with Michael Cohen potentially the last witness. Meanwhile in DC, Steve Bannon reaches the findout on his contempt of congress charge. Links: US v. Navarro [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63359365/united-states-v-navarro/ 2 U.S.C. § 192 https://www.law.co…
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Ep 29 — The Trump Trials: She Is The Storm
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Liz and Andrew check in on the latest hilarity from Stefanie Lambert, the Kraken alum who’s now been arrested twice for trying to overthrow the 2020 election. Then, they break down last week in Trump’s NY trial with a focus on Stormy Daniels’ testimony and what the DA’s office has left to prove. Links: New York Penal Law § 175.10 https://codes.find…
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This week on the podcast is my new friend Liz Armour, and y'all she is a wise one! Liz is a former engineer turned homeschool mom, and she is brilliant at everything she puts her mind to. She blew me away with today’s episode. You will hear the honest resilience of a girl who was once reluctant to turn loose of her trust yet who boldly shares with …
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Ep 28 — Throwing Shade on the Supreme Court (Feat. Steve Vladeck)
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Liz and Andrew interview law professor Steven Vladek about The Shadow Docket, what makes the Supreme Court legitimate, and how to think and talk about it in order to reform the Court for the future. Links: The Shadow Docket https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Docket-Supreme-Undermine-Republic/dp/B0BJ15Q9VZ/ Lisa Needham on Public Notice, “The Dangerously…
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Liz and Andrew break Justice Merchan’s contempt ruling that paves the way for Trump to spend time in lockup, then discuss the witnesses and how they did, or did not, help the prosecution build its case. Plus, Tennessee banned contrails and maybe … spray bottles? Links: Second Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/DOcontempt_…
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Guys, Reeves Walker is on the podcast this week, and you do not want to miss it! You may know Reeves from LO Worship, Remax real estate, his lawn care company Bottomland Projects, or leading local worship, but today we get to hear his story, and it is so good. As is true for Reeves, his story is just very real and honest. It’s a story of chasing do…
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Ep 26 — Joe Biden Loves Ice Cream And … Weed?
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Liz and Andrew Torrez catch up with Trump’s election lawyers. Where are they now, and why isn’t it the hoosegow? Then a deep dive into the Biden administration’s plan to reschedule marijuana. But first, Donald Trump has nothing but contempt for this court! Links: Trump Contempt Order https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/D.O.motion4contemp…
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Ep 25 — Another Set Of Fake Electors Reaches The Find Out (Feat. Tom Ryan)
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Liz sits down with Arizona trial lawyer Tom Ryan to discuss last week’s indictment of fake electors by Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes. It’s indictment-thirty for Boris Epshteyn and Christina Bobb! Links: Gag Order https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/JustSecurityNY2016ElectionInterferenceCaseClearinghouse%E2%80%94Order-grant…
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It’s another Topic Tuesday on the podcast today, so you know we had to bring our favorite co-host Lindsay back! This is a topic we discuss a lot behind the scenes, so this week we decided why not have the conversation on the podcast? Dying to self— it’s not always our most favorite topic. Yet, when we really take a deep dive into what that is and w…
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Ep 24 — SCOTUS Beclowns Itself For Trump (Feat. Andrew Torrez)
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Liz talks to podcaster Andrew Torrez about Trump’s Manhattan prosecution and the debacle at the Supreme Court Thursday when Trump made his magical, perpetual, presidential immunity argument. Links: Arizona v. Ward — Indictment https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/Indictment.pdf People v. Trump — Transcripts https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/Peo…
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Trump’s first criminal trial gets underway in Manhattan, even as he fights to get the court to accept his hinky bond in the civil fraud case. Links: NYAG Opposition to Trump/Knight Surety Bond https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=E/oR7WnxPeT2tSnZpOGlBA== Trump Civil Trial NY, Selected Docs at Just Security https://www.justs…
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Wendy Driedger is on the podcast today, and y’all aren’t ready! She is always so well-spoken, and today is no exception. Her story will move you, inspire you, and remind you who holds it all. Wendy is a wife, a mom, a foster parent, and on staff at North Monroe as the Local Missions and Hospitality Director, she helps run Project 2.5+, and so much …
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Ep 22 — Hunter Biden And The Lies They Wish Were True (Feat. Marcy Wheeler)
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Hey guys, it’s Liz Dye, and we’ve got some big, exciting changes coming your way next week. It’s all still in process, but I can tell you now that we’ll be shifting our podcast drops from Monday/Friday to Tuesday/Friday and ramping up the written content, as well. So, heads up, the next show will be in your feed Tuesday, not Monday. But today, I’m …
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