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The Neurodivergent Woman

Michelle Livock and Monique Mitchelson

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A podcast for neurodivergent women, hosted by clinical psychologist Monique Mitchelson and clinical neuropsychologist Michelle Livock. Covering Autism to ADHD and everything in between, we aim to educate and inspire women who think differently.
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Join us as we blindly navigate and unpack the raw and often unspoken experiences of womanhood, grief, friendship and everything in between. Darling, Shine is your survival kit to the unexpected shit life throws at you.
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Join psychologist Cass Dunn, and inspiring guests from around the world, for real talk, relatable and practical ideas to help you live a happier, more meaningful life. www.cassdunn.com
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One of the questions that comes up regularly, in the Darling Shine community, is how to support someone who is moving through the big life stuff. Like when a friend is dealing with the grief of losing a loved one, or they receive a diagnosis that isn't good, or they've just had a miscarriage... how can you be there in a way that is actually helpful…
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Hours before Chlo flew out for the Ibiza season, her and Ellidy sat down to chat honestly and vulnerably all things new motherhood. You'll hear about: Chloe's recovery and the things she's struggled with in this big life transition The items and products that they are loving in the early days (or, in El's case, loved) The highs and lows and importa…
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In this solo episode of Crappy to Happy, Cass discusses the importance of quality friendships and what makes them thrive. She highlights three key ingredients of high-quality friendships: consistency, positivity, and vulnerability. Cass emphasises the need for regular contact, positive interactions, and the ability to share personal and intimate ex…
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After our chat earlier this year, with the amazing Bridget Hustwaite, there was such a huge response from women also suffering this mostly silent disease which affects 1 in 7 of us, that we decided to give this topic more much deserved air time! So Chlo and El reunited with an old high school friend, Elly McGaw, to share her story of living with st…
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In this solo episode, Cass explores the concept of narrative identity theory and how the stories we tell ourselves about our lives shape our sense of self and well-being. She discusses the importance of personal agency, belonging, redemption, meaning-making, and coherence in our life stories. Cass emphasises the power of reframing our narratives to…
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Chlo and El sit down for the first time since Bobbi's arrival, to unpack their experiences of Chloe's birth together. In true Darling Shine style, there's some seriously touching moments, plus a little side chaos and lols, but beneath it all a bond between two besties that can make it through anything life throws their way. LINKS Join the Darling S…
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In this episode, Cass recaps what she covered in her live online workshop, "How to Cultivate Unshakeable Self-Confidence". She outlines the key difference between self-doubt and the imposter experience, which runs much deeper, and the importance of having tools and strategies which address both. She shares her views on the limitations of 'mindset' …
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Get the Kleenex ready, Darlings! Chloe is back from mat leave and ready to unpack the first part of her birth story. In true Darling, Shine style, there were some hiccups with the record and we've had to take a detour from our original plan of a heartfelt conversation between Chlo and Paul, but the end result is beautiful. In this episode, you'll h…
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As Chloe takes time out to transition into her new role as a mother, we thought it fitting to revisit Ellidy and her journey to motherhood. A couple of months ago, El sat down with Davina Smith, host of the Gidget Foundation podcast "1 in 5 Mothers, 1 in 10 Fathers," and shared openly and honestly about her early days of motherhood and how she navi…
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In this solo episode, Cass shares one of the common reasons people struggle to make progress on the things they say that want to achieve. "Competing commitments", sometimes called competing desires or conflicting values, are the (often unconscious) desires that run counter to your stated goal, and cause you to spin your wheels or sabotage your prog…
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As Chloe continues to recover from birth and navigates the transition into new motherhood, we are taking a very brief recording break to allow her to catch her breath. But we didn't want to leave you empty handed, so here's a replay of the interview Chlo and El did with their dynamic duo real life friends, Lucy Jackson and Nikki Westcott (hosts of …
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With Chloe on mat leave, Ellidy sat down with one of their 'chosen family': the ray of sunshine that is Hannah Sugerman. It's officially been four years since Chump passed, and the girls reflect on their friendship and how to support the people you love through grief, before the conversation takes a twist as Hannah unpacks her experience of survivi…
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Cass talks with fellow psychologist, Ariane Beeston about Ariane's experience of severe postpartum depression and psychosis. They discuss the feelings of failure that can prevent new mothers from asking for help, the lack of support available for mums beyond their babys' infancy, and the added shame of being a mental health professional experiencin…
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Chloe and Ellidy sit down to answer more of your Q's... this time the general theme is work related. They pull back the curtains and explore: How they built their instagram followings Have their relationships been affected as their profiles have grown What are their future work goals and aspirations LINKS Join the Darling Shine facebook community: …
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In this solo episode, Cass discusses the importance of goal-setting, but understanding why you want the things you want when you're aspiring to achieve or create something in your life. She talks about the trap of attaching your happiness to a goal or outcome, and offers some tips for how you can overcome that. Cass also discusses the concept of "m…
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Ellidy sits down with Clinical Psychologist, Monique Mitchelson. As an Autistic ADHDer herself, Monique brings lived experience, coupled with clinical knowledge, to help Ellidy unpack her experience as an undiagnosed, but highly suspected ADHDer, and shares: What ADHD is and why it seems like a bit of a craze right now Some tips and guidance on how…
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Cass chats with Monique Mitchelson, a clinical psychologist and host of The Neurodivergent Woman podcast, about neurodiversity in women, specifically autism and ADHD. Monique shares that neurodivergence is often under-diagnosed, especially in girls and that many women are doing life in 'hard mode' when they don't have an accurate diagnosis. Monique…
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Chloe and Ellidy recently asked, via their stories, what you'd most like to hear about on the podcast… and turns out you had a lot of questions about relationships, like: How are Chloe and Ellidy in relationships? What’s the go with their big group of friends? Where is Ellidy at in her dating life? Do Chloe and Fish ever fight? Chloe and Ellidy ans…
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In this solo ep, Cass shares her decision to take an extended break from alcohol after quitting drinking for (almost) two years in 2020 and then taking it up again in 2022. She highlights all the best things she experienced during two years of being alcohol-free, as a way to remind herself of the benefits to be gained from staying sober, and as mot…
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This is a heartwarming episode - we sit down with our one and only FISHER to chat about the exciting journey to becoming a dad for the first time. He opens up about the joys and challenges that he and Chloe have endured along the way. We also dive into the story behind his recently successful hometown festival, Out 2 Lunch which was held in Coolang…
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Chloe is joined on the couch by her friend, Michelle Battersby, to have an open and honest conversation around putting your career first and the anxiety of missing out on motherhood. After putting motherhood on the backburner to focus on her career, Michelle found herself pregnant, at a really pivotal moment in her tech start up, Sunroom (a social …
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Johann Hari began taking Ozempic in 2023, and subsequently spent 12 months traveling the world talking to experts about every aspect of the obesity crisis and the new weight loss medications which offer a solution to the millions of people who struggle to lose weight on their own. In his book, "Magic Pill", he details the extraordinary benefits of …
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For our final episode of the season we welcome Sonny Jane Wise to the podcast, to share their wisdom on all things neurodivergence. This is a fabulous ep to start with if you’re new to the neurodiversity affirming model, and also if you’ve been here a while! Sonny Jane is a trans, multiply neurodivergent & disabled public speaker, advocate and auth…
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By now we can assume that Chloe's birth plan has been thrown out the window, so what got the boot and what remains? What expectations does Chloe have about the impending arrival of Baby Fish? LINKS Listen to Cody's 'Chloe Push Pllaylist' here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4UAOSKMUJpOZlOHKCZzqBo?si=cbf2e91847e94165 Listen to Chloe's 'Birth Suit…
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In this solo episode, Cass discusses the fear of making the wrong decision and the desire for certainty. Cass emphasises the importance of taking action as a way of gaining clarity, as well as the importance of getting comfortable with uncertainty. She also explores the role of the body in decision-making and suggests practicing feeling into what f…
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We are thrilled to have Rosemary Richings on the podcast today, to chat with us about her experience of dyspraxia. Rosemary is a writer, editor, and public speaker specialising in disability and neurodiversity, and she is the author of Stumbling Through Space and Time: Living Life With Dyspraxia. Rosemary is on the board of trustees of Dyspraxic Me…
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Georgie Copeland is one of Ellidy's Widow Wives. She lost her life partner, back in 2020, and found love again only to have it end with the Hunter Valley Bus Crash. How does one deal with multiple losses and ever think of opening up to love again? LINKS Follow Georgia Copeland on Instagram @g.copeland Join the Darling Shine facebook community: @dar…
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In this week's episode we chat about compassionate practice. We have both been super keen to do an episode on compassion for a while now, given compassion is a core tenant of our practice. In this ep we went through some of the core features of compassion, how this can be used therapeutically, and developing self-compassion. We loved putting this e…
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Do we have a plot twist for you! Just as we were about to knuckle down and create a solid plan for Chloe's impending birth, instead we are recording this episode from hospital: where, at this stage, Chloe will remain until the birth. From the hospital bed you'll hear: all the details on why Chloe is on bedrest and how the baby is doing if Ellidy an…
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Today on the show Monique interviews Rebecca Gannon. Rebecca is a Neurodivergent Psychologist with a Masters in Educational and Developmental Psychology. Their clinical work focuses on Autism and ADHD assessment for adults as well as supervising other Psychologists and allied health professionals in neuroaffirming practice skills. Rebecca is Aborig…
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Georgie Copeland is one of Ellidy's Widow Wives. She lost her life partner, Lachie Proctor, a few months after Chumpy, back in 2020. This is a story so big we had to tell it across two weeks. In this first episode, Georgia shares the heartbreaking story of the lead up to losing Lachie. Stick around next week to hear the aftermath of this crushing l…
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In this week’s episode we are thrilled to chat to Michelle Marques about her experience with depression and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, plus a million other things. Michelle is an Autistic and ADHD writer with a background in journalism and a Master’s in African American studies. Her writing and research focuses on gender, sexuality, race, n…
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This week Cass chats with Samantha Skelly, founder and CEO of Pause Breathwork about the power of the breath to reduce stress and anxiety, heal your body, create clarity in your mind and connect with your intuition. Samantha shares her own story of going from skeptic to devoted student of breathwork, to eventually realising her mission to bring bre…
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If you have anyone under 5 in your life, you might know Caterina Mete as the Red Wiggle. Why on earth would Chloe and Ellidy be interviewing a Wiggle? Well, one of the topics that comes up regularly in our facebook group, is having a child on your own. What to do when you're yet to meet a suitable partner but you know without a doubt you want kids?…
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This week on the podcast Monique interviews the incredible Associate Professor Josephine Barbaro. Josie is a late identified Autistic ADHDer. She is a Principal Research Fellow and Psychologist at the Olga Tennison Autism Research Centre, La Trobe University, Melbourne. She is the Research Director of Identification and Diagnosis of Autism, and Cli…
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When it comes to fertility, the focus on finding the issue often falls on the woman. However, the stats show us that male fertility is equally as likely to be the root of the issue. It's time to change this focus on women and balance out this conversation. In this episode, Chloe talks to Dr Shahin Ghadir, a top LA fertility specialist, to talk all …
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We are back with the epic conclusion of our Life Update. There's just been so much going on for Chloe and Ellidy we couldn't contain it to an hour. In this episode you'll hear: Chloe address the super sleuths seeking the babies birth date and sex Ellidy sharing her recent hectic work schedule (including Covergirl and LIV Golf) and the very real 'im…
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Look. There's been a bit going on... between Chloe travelling the globe on tour whilst growing a little human, and Ellidy's rather hectic work schedule, there was so much to talk about that we figured we'd give you a two part banger. In this first part you'll hear: an update on Ellidy's house situation behind the scenes at Miami Music Festival what…
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This week Cass talks with Dr Ann Kelley, licensed psychologist and co-host of the Therapist Uncensored podcast, about the importance of updating our understanding of attachment styles and the limitations of categorising ourselves and others. Ann proposes a more helpful approach of thinking about attachment as a spectrum. She introduces the idea of …
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